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• Donate to Everytown to support their efforts to end gun violence, community by community.
• Volunteer with Communities Responding to Extreme Weather (CREW) to build the supports your community needs to respond to climate impacts.
• Get educated about how you can run for a local office and make a huge, direct impact on peoples lives using Run For Something’s Local Office Guide. 2025 is your year, let’s go.
• Be heard about incentivizing heat pump installations and bring our Heat Pump Targets script to your local government meetings.
• Invest in affordable housing by becoming an investor with Enterprise, a non-profit working to increase housing supply and build community resilience.

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What's the missing link in local journalism?

That's today's big question, and my guest is Lyndsey Gilpin.

Lyndsey is the Senior Manager of Community Engagement at Grist. Lyndsey was the founder and executive editor at Southerly, a nonprofit media organization that equipped people who face environmental injustices and are at most at risk of climate change effects with journalism and resources on natural disasters, pollution, food, energy, and more.

It was very groundbreaking, and now she's brought that to Grist. Lyndsey was recently a John S. Knight Community Impact Fellow at Stanford University, focusing on information access in rural southern communities of color, where she is from, based in Louisville.

And in an age of mass dis and misinformation it's more important than ever that we not only fund journalism and obviously read it, but local journalism and journalists and publishers, editors, photographers, documenters, and more that are of the communities they are based in, who have and continue to build trust in an ongoing, two way conversation to help people get information, to connect the last mile and make sure it goes back and forth.

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INI Book Club:

• The Quickening by Elizabeth Rush
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• Keep up with Lyndsey's work
• Support Grist's nonprofit journalism

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This entire (short!) episode is a call to action. It's time to do this thing...do the thing, but also take care of yourselves and your loved ones these next couple weeks.

It's a lot right now.

• Donate to the groups that are on the ground every day organizing and fighting for a better, stronger democracy (go)
• Volunteer for democracy by picking up the phone and knocking on doors with the people who have mobilizing voters down to a science. Time’s ticking but it’s not too late (go)
• Learn about ways you can become a more active citizen (like running for a local office!) (go)
• Be heard about the issues you care about the most, like reproductive rights or clean energy, and find candidates in your district that support those causes.
• Invest in companies that are scaling climate solutions so we still have a planet where the privilege to vote is possible.

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Is multisolving the future? Is it today? Should we do more?

That's all today's big question and my guest is Dr. Elizabeth Sawin.

Dr. Sawin is the Founder and Director of the Multisolving Institute, which is convenient for our conversation. She's an expert on solutions that address climate change while also improving health, well being, and economic vitality. She developed multisolving to describe such win win win solutions.

Beth writes and speaks about multisolving, climate change, and leadership in complex systems for both national and international audiences.

Since 2014, Beth has participated in the Council on the Uncertain Human Future, a continuing dialogue on issues of climate change and sustainability among a select group of humanities scholars, writers, artists, and climate scientists.

Beth is a biologist with a Ph.D. From the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, M. I. T. She co-founded Climate Interactive in 2010 and served as Climate Interactive's co-director from 2010 until 2022.

Beth’s work has influenced me quite a bit, as you can see in the app.

We've got co benefits all over the place, more on that soon and today. She's been on the list for a while here, and yet it took a couple recent hurricanes to actually get her on the show to talk about her journey, her mentors, her new book, and how we can most effectively deal with all of this.

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INI Book Club:

• Always Coming Home and The Dispossessed by Ursula Le Guin
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• Buy Dr. Sawin's book Multisolving: Creating Systems Change in a Fractured World
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How do we make it easier for more Americans to reliably put food (in particular, hot food) on the table?

That's today’s big question, and my guest is Salaam Bhatti.

Salaam is the SNAP Director at the Food Research and Action Center, a 501c3 that uses advocacy and strategic partnerships to improve the health and well being of people struggling against poverty related hunger in the United States.

Before joining the Food Research and Action Center, Salam was the Public Benefits Attorney and Deputy Director of the Virginia Poverty Law Center where he specialized in public benefits law.

Salaam also served as the director of Virginia Hunger Solutions, where he supported the initiative's mission of eradicating hunger and enhancing the nutrition, health, and overall well being of children and families living in poverty throughout this great commonwealth.

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• Llama Llama and the Bully Goat by Anna Dewdney
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• Follow Salaam on TikTok and Twitter
• Follow FRAC on Instagram and Twitter
• Get involved with the FRAC Action Network
• Donate to FRAC to help end hunger in America
• Check out FRAC's Road to the Farm Bill resources
• Call on Congress to protect and strengthen SNAP
• Read the USDA Food Security report and FRAC's Statement of Poverty report
• Read FRAC's brief with the National Women's Law Center

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We first ran this episode in May 2023, but following back-to-back hurricanes in Florida this month, it remains as relevant as ever.

You've got insurance, right? Are you sure?

That's today's big question, and my guest is Washington Post reporter Brianna Sacks.

Brianna's an extreme weather and disaster reporter for the Post, where she explores how climate change is transforming the United States through violent storms, intense heat, widespread wildfires, and other forms of extreme weather.

Brianna deploys to disaster zones, which are sometimes very close to home, and does enterprise reporting on the preparations for responses to and the aftermaths of catastrophic events.

We're having this conversation today because last month Brianna revealed how insurers have slashed Hurricane Ian payouts far below damage estimates, often up to 80%.

I cannot emphasize enough that the future includes an insurance landscape that is among the most important in our very brittle economy and society.

It underpins everything we rely on, so understanding not only your own insurance but how well your mortgage holder and the system at large are prepared for what's here and what's coming, is essential.

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INI Book Club:

• What I Talk about When I Talk about Running: A Memoir by Haruki Murakami
• On Writing: A Memoir of the Craft by Stephen King
• Training for the Uphill Athlete by Steve House, Scott Johnston, and Kilian Jornet
• The Great Displacement by Jake Bittle
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• Follow Brianna on Twitter and Instagram
• Read Brianna's piece on Hurricane Ian insurance cuts
• Read more of her reporting at The Washington Post

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There’s no word for “conservation” in many Indigenous languages.

Some come close, but mean something more like “taking care of” or “looking after.”

And that’s probably because the very idea of conservation, to “prevention the wasteful use of a resource”, would have been, and continue to be, foreign to many of North America’s Indigenous peoples, who lived in an entirely different, co-dependent relationship with nature.

That is to say, to have had a relationship at all.

A relationship with the very same nature of which we’re inextricably part of, of which we rely on for clean air, food, and water – or it’s game over.

And now, if we’re not facing game over, we’re certainly up against the final boss.

We live on stolen lands that were tended for thousands of years by Indigenous and Native peoples have been dried out by mostly white settlers in what seems like the blink of an eye.

Land now covered in cities, in suburbs, in industrialized agriculture, desperately and even controversially conserved as national and state parks.

Waters onshore and offshore, full of plastic and fertilizer, once bountiful, now overfished.

The receipts are in and it’s not gone well for colonialists’ stewardship over the single habitable ecosystem as far as anyone can tell.

New voices are needed, new policies and practices are needed, and perhaps the most compelling ones come from our land’s longest-tenured human inhabitants.

And while, yes, I’m focused on actions we can take to build a vastly cleaner and better future for all people, you know I work hard to bring you the necessary context, to understand how we got here, why we got here, to understand the decisions and systems involved – all of which should only make us more effective at taking action.

My guest today is Dr. Jessica Hernandez.

Dr. Hernandez is an environmental scientist, founder of environmental non-profit Piña Soul, and the author of the new book, “Fresh Banana Leaves”, where she weaves together her family’s relationship with nature, as part of nature, her family’s history of being displaced over and over, through the lens of eco-colonialism, and how Indigenous-led restoration is the way forward.

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• Le Maya Q’atzij/Our Maya Word by Dr. Emil’ Keme
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• Dr. Jessica Hernandez on Twitter
• Jessica Hernandez website
• Piña Soul

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You’d think that -- considering we just spent two years building our new What Can I Do? app -- that I’d have a really good answer for why we were doing it in the first place.

But I didn’t. Not until about a week ago.

I knew, of course, the practical reasons why it needed to exist, and I had a good idea of what I wanted it to look and feel like.

I knew it was the natural evolution and a significant missing piece of our work.

But I had never really interrogated myself to understand why I was so hell-bent on building an app -- a tool -- that gathered all the action steps we’d researched over the years, and made them accessible to anyone across the world, anytime they wanted or needed them.

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It’s another big day in a very big month for us.

Our extremely tiny team has been busting our asses for almost two years to bring you something fucking extraordinary, something I’m just so proud of, and now it's here:

Our new app: "What Can I Do?"

A one stop shop for taking action on the issues you give a shit about.

Why?

Because the world won't unf**k itself.

Get it here: https://www.whatcanido.earth/

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What if we get it right?

That's today's big question, and my returning guest is Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson.

Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson is a marine biologist. She is a policy expert, a writer, and a teacher working to help create the best possible climate future. She co-founded and leads the Urban Ocean Lab, a think tank for the future of coastal cities, and is the Roux Distinguished Scholar at Bowdoin College.

Ayana authored the forthcoming book, What If We Get It Right? Visions of Climate Futures, co-edited the best selling climate anthology, All We Can Save, and co-created and co-hosted the Spotify slash Gimlet podcast, How to Save a Planet. Lastly, she co-authored the Blue New Deal, a roadmap for including the ocean, what an idea, into climate policy.

This is a special one for me.

Ayana was guest number seven or eight on the show a long time ago. She took a chance on us. And almost 200 episodes later, a pandemic later, a few degrees of warming later, a lot has changed.

But Ayana's passion for nature, her influence on U.S. and global policy and our one wonderful habitable planet has not.

I am such a huge fan of hers, and I am so thankful she came back to spend time with us.

If you have been trying to find your way into this whole thing, today just might be your day.

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INI Book Club:

• What If We Get It Right by Ayana Elizabeth Johnson
• All We Can Save by Ayana Elizabeth Johnson and Katherine Wilkinson
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• Subscribe to Ayana's What If We Get It Right? newsletter
• Find climate action resources to pair with What If We Get It Right?
• Join and donate to the All We Can Save Project
• Donate and check out the Resource Hub at Urban Ocean Lab
• Keep up with more of Ayana's work

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