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In every flood scarred bend of an Appalachian river sits a chance to rebuild something stronger, cleaner water for people, and room for a 160 million-year salamander to thrive again.
Hurricane-shaped chaos is unveiling a surprising truth when we restore stream banks, fund green storm water projects, and protect keystone species like the Eastern Hellbender, we don't just rescue wildlife, we buffer towns and farms and drinking water intakes against the next big storm. The same fixes that help a snot otter bounce back can future-proof entire communities like yours and mine.
So what can I do to turn the washed-out creeks and budget cuts into a cleaner, more resilient future?
my guest today is Jackie Flynn Mogensen, senior reporter at Mother Jones.
Jackie embedded with conservation biologists after Hurricane Helene and uncovered how saving an ancient salamander could safeguard our waterways and our towns for decades to come.
Stick around and you'll discover practical ways to turn today's river wreckage into tomorrow's resilience.
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INI Book Club:
Crossings: How Road Ecology Is Shaping the Future of Our Planet by Ben Goldfarb
Find all of our guest recommendations at the INI Book Club: https://bookshop.org/lists/important-not-important-book-club
Links:
Read Jackie's Mother Jones Eastern Hellbenders article https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2025/04/endangered-species-salamander-hurricane-helene-eastern-hellbender-bog-turtle/
Learn how to build a rain garden https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2023/01/rain-garden-resources-water-flooding/
Follow Jackie and keep up with her reporting https://x.com/jackiefmogensen?lang=en
Rain Garden app https://coast.noaa.gov/digitalcoast/tools/rain-garden.html
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Mentioned in this episode:
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What Can I Do?
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In every flood scarred bend of an Appalachian river sits a chance to rebuild something stronger, cleaner water for people, and room for a 160 million-year salamander to thrive again.
Hurricane-shaped chaos is unveiling a surprising truth when we restore stream banks, fund green storm water projects, and protect keystone species like the Eastern Hellbender, we don't just rescue wildlife, we buffer towns and farms and drinking water intakes against the next big storm. The same fixes that help a snot otter bounce back can future-proof entire communities like yours and mine.
So what can I do to turn the washed-out creeks and budget cuts into a cleaner, more resilient future?
my guest today is Jackie Flynn Mogensen, senior reporter at Mother Jones.
Jackie embedded with conservation biologists after Hurricane Helene and uncovered how saving an ancient salamander could safeguard our waterways and our towns for decades to come.
Stick around and you'll discover practical ways to turn today's river wreckage into tomorrow's resilience.
-----------
Have feedback or questions? Tweet us, or send a message to [email protected]
New here? Get started with our fan favorite episodes at podcast.importantnotimportant.com.
Take Action at www.whatcanido.earth
-----------
INI Book Club:
Crossings: How Road Ecology Is Shaping the Future of Our Planet by Ben Goldfarb
Find all of our guest recommendations at the INI Book Club: https://bookshop.org/lists/important-not-important-book-club
Links:
Read Jackie's Mother Jones Eastern Hellbenders article https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2025/04/endangered-species-salamander-hurricane-helene-eastern-hellbender-bog-turtle/
Learn how to build a rain garden https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2023/01/rain-garden-resources-water-flooding/
Follow Jackie and keep up with her reporting https://x.com/jackiefmogensen?lang=en
Rain Garden app https://coast.noaa.gov/digitalcoast/tools/rain-garden.html
Follow us:
Subscribe to our newsletter at importantnotimportant.com
Support our work and become a Member at importantnotimportant.com/upgrade
Get our merch
Follow us on Twitter: twitter.com/ImportantNotImp
Follow us on Threads: www.threads.net/@importantnotimportant
Subscribe to our YouTube channel
Follow Quinn: on Twitter - twitter.com/quinnemmett; Bluesky - bsky.app/profile/quinnemmett.bsky.social; Threads - www.threads.net/@quinnemmett
Produced by Willow Beck
Intro/outro by Tim Blane: timblane.com
Advertise with us: importantnotimportant.com/c/sponsors
Mentioned in this episode:
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