In Her Shoes is taking over The Cut, interviewing the people we love, admire, or just find interesting. Each episode explores how our guest found their path, what got in their way, and how they think about bringing others along now that they’ve arrived. On this episode, Editor-in-Chief of the Cut, Lindsay People's Wagner sits down with CEO of Black Opal and Fashion Fair, former White House social secretary, and black makeup legend Desiree Rogers for a conversation about career shifts, the Obama White House, and the future of black cosmetics.

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