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Lithuanian President Gitanas Nauseda has suggested Ukraine should be allowed into the EU on 1 January 2030 (by which time the war will be over or frozen...). What if it could be in months not years? It won't happen, for all kinds of reasons, but let's entertain it as a 'what if?' thought experiment.
PS: I got my digits muddled: it's Article 42, clause 7 of the Treaty if Europe I ment, not 47(7).
In the second half, I look at three recent deeply-engaged eyewitness books on Ukraine:
· Battleground Ukraine by Adrian Karatnicky (Yale Up, 2024)
· Our Enemies Will Vanish by Yaroslav Trofimov (Michael Joseph 2024)
· I Will Show You How It Was by Illia Ponomarenko (Bloomsbury, 2024)
The podcast's corporate partner and sponsor is Conducttr, which provides software for innovative and immersive crisis exercises in hybrid warfare, counter-terrorism, civil affairs and similar situations.
You can also follow my blog, In Moscow's Shadows, and become one of the podcast's supporting Patrons and gain question-asking rights and access to exclusive extra materials including the (almost-) weekly Govorit Moskva news briefing right here. 
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 By Mark Galeotti
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Lithuanian President Gitanas Nauseda has suggested Ukraine should be allowed into the EU on 1 January 2030 (by which time the war will be over or frozen...). What if it could be in months not years? It won't happen, for all kinds of reasons, but let's entertain it as a 'what if?' thought experiment.
PS: I got my digits muddled: it's Article 42, clause 7 of the Treaty if Europe I ment, not 47(7).
In the second half, I look at three recent deeply-engaged eyewitness books on Ukraine:
· Battleground Ukraine by Adrian Karatnicky (Yale Up, 2024)
· Our Enemies Will Vanish by Yaroslav Trofimov (Michael Joseph 2024)
· I Will Show You How It Was by Illia Ponomarenko (Bloomsbury, 2024)
The podcast's corporate partner and sponsor is Conducttr, which provides software for innovative and immersive crisis exercises in hybrid warfare, counter-terrorism, civil affairs and similar situations.
You can also follow my blog, In Moscow's Shadows, and become one of the podcast's supporting Patrons and gain question-asking rights and access to exclusive extra materials including the (almost-) weekly Govorit Moskva news briefing right here. 
Support the show

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