John Heers works for the First Things Foundation which you'll hear a bit about in this conversation. Here's they're Youtube channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDgFlxihYUGk1Qu3ekdp79A

He's had a couple of talks with  @JonathanPageau  https://youtu.be/Xa_7QIEMJPg which caught my attention. https://youtu.be/9masKmr1m9o

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