Andy and Michael Osterholm have a candid conversation about where things stand two years into the pandemic. During this live event hosted by the University of Minnesota's School of Public Health, they discuss how to reach science skeptics, the strain many states' healthcare systems are experiencing right now, and what to say to parents who aren't sure about vaccinating their young children. Plus, COVID will be with us long-term, so how do we adjust our mindset so we can learn to live in a world alongside the virus?

 

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• Learn more about CIDRAP, the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy: https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/
• Check out the data from the Kaiser Family Foundation on parents’ attitudes toward vaccinating their kids, which Mike mentioned in today’s episode: https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/poll-finding/kff-covid-19-vaccine-monitor-october-2021/
• Read the letter in support of OSHA’s vaccine requirement that Andy, Mike, and many more individuals and organizations signed: http://www.ezekielemanuel.com/writing/all-articles/2021/11/17/statement-supporting-osha-s-covid-vaccine-requirement
• Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ 
• Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 

 

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Andy talks with Nick Clegg, Facebook's Vice President of Global Affairs, about one of the most important issues out there: Facebook, social media, COVID-19 and misinformation. After President Biden said Facebook is "killing people" with COVID misinformation, Andy and Nick discuss what Facebook says its obligation is with regard to misinformation, what they're doing to combat it, and whether it’s enough. In this extended cut from July, they also discuss Nick’s transition from politics to tech, the lessons Facebook learned from the 2016 election, and COVID in the UK.

 

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Andy and epidemiologists Farzad Mostashari and Jennifer Nuzzo get together for a special holiday edition of Safe or Not Safe. They've got answers to your questions about partially-vaccinated kids, rapid antigen tests, in-person office parties (remember those?), airplane safety, and much more. Whether you are hosting people or will be someone's guest, this episode should calm your pre-holiday COVID-related nerves.

 

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Check out these resources from today’s episode: 

• Read Andy’s opinion piece in The Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/11/15/pandemic-is-not-over-yet-andy-slavitt/
• Check out more of Jennifer’s thoughts on how to have a safe holiday season in this guest essay in The New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/17/opinion/covid-thanksgiving-holiday-risk.html
• Watch a video of how to take an at-home test, as Farzad suggests, before administering one on yourself: https://www.webmd.com/coronavirus-in-context/video/covid-home-testing
• Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ 
• Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 

 

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Andy and conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt, who is very much pro-vaccine and anti-federal vaccine mandate, merge echo chambers and discuss where conservatives are at this moment with the pandemic. They get into reasons why an estimated 40% of conservative adults aren't vaccinated, what works and what doesn't when it comes to persuading unvaccinated people, and have an in-depth exchange about mandates. This is an increasingly rare but badly needed conversation, one that is spirited and civil between people who disagree. Plus, Ryan Panchadsaram joins Andy at the beginning of the show to weigh in on the Glasgow Climate Pact.

 

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Check out these resources from today’s episode: 

 

• Here’s more on the Pew report on political typology that Hugh mentions: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/11/09/beyond-red-vs-blue-the-political-typology-2/
• Watch Hugh’s most recent interview with Dr. Fauci: https://hughhewitt.com/video/dr-anthony-fauci-returns-to-the-interview-with-hugh-hewitt/
• Here’s Ross Douthat’s book chronicling his chronic Lyme disease that Hugh mentions: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/646761/the-deep-places-by-ross-douthat/
• Check out Peggy Noonan’s 2016 piece that Hugh references: https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-and-the-rise-of-the-unprotected-1456448550
• Learn more about John Doerr and Ryan Panchadsaram’s plan to solve the climate crisis: www.speedandscale.com
• Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ 
• Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 

 

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Have we reached the so-called "new normal" people keep talking about? And if so, what does that mean for you? Andy reunites with former guest host Dr. Bob Wachter who has started to let his guard down in terms of risk tolerance. They discuss why Bob feels like the time is right for that, how to think about the things that can scare us back into a more vigilant state, and Bob's thoughts for what COVID looks like long-term. This is a nuanced conversation on a complex topic that will help you navigate this uncertain time. Plus, Andy’s mom joins at the start to offer up some show ideas.

 

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Check out these resources from today’s episode: 

 

• Learn more about how the oral antivirals from Merck and Pfizer work and what they could mean for the pandemic: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/covid-antiviral-drugs-merck-pfizer-pills-work-rcna5317
• Here’s more on the third wave hitting Denmark: https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/denmark-reinstate-corona-passport-after-rise-infections-tv-2-2021-11-08/
• Read more about Bob’s decision-making shift: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/12/briefing/pandemic-return-nomal-coronavirus.html
• He was also featured in the San Francisco Chronicle recently about risk assessment: https://www.sfchronicle.com/health/article/COVID-new-normal-risks-16557732.php
• Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ 
• Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 

 

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Andy brings clear, simple answers to one of the most intimidating and important questions of our time: is there a plan that can actually solve climate change? John Doerr and his colleague Ryan Panchadsaram join Andy to introduce the most systematic and easy-to-understand plan to solve the climate crisis as the COP26 Climate Change Conference unfolds in Glasgow, Scotland. This episode brings hope to a desperate time. 

 

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Check out these resources from today’s episode: 

 

• Get more information on John and Ryan’s plan: speedandscale.com 
• Keep up to date on the latest happening at COP26: https://ukcop26.org/
• Read more about Bill Gates’s idea of the Green Premium: https://www.gatesnotes.com/Energy/Introducing-the-Green-Premiums
• Read more about the climate provisions proposed in President Biden’s Build Back Better plan: https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2021/10/28/climate-biden-build-back-better/
• Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ 
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Andy calls up Kara Swisher, whom Newsweek once called Silicon Valley's "most powerful tech journalist," to discuss the myriad issues surrounding companies like Facebook, Twitter, and even Donald Trump's new social media platform Truth Social. They get into the Facebook Papers, if government regulation is coming, and where she sees Big Tech heading in the near future. Plus, Andy tells a story he's never told before about interactions with Facebook while he was in the White House.

 

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Check out these resources from today’s episode: 

 

• Learn more about Pfizer’s COVID-19 oral antiviral pill: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/11/05/pfizer-covid-pill/
• Read an interview with Kara on the Facebook Papers: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/10/kara-swisher-on-mark-zuckerberg-facebook-papers.html
• Read Kara’s columns in The New York Times, including many about Facebook: https://www.nytimes.com/column/kara-swisher
• Learn more about Truth Social and SPACs: https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-s-truth-social-platform-could-make-millions-or-go-ncna1282853
• Check out Sapiens by Yuval Noah Harari: https://www.ynharari.com/book/sapiens-2/
• Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ 
• Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 

 

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Andy calls up Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot, who is in the middle of a nasty battle over vaccine mandates with, most notably, the city's largest police union. Andy asks Mayor Lightfoot why she thinks the union president is really picking this fight with her, how she plans to get through to city workers who aren't complying with the mandate, and where the opposing sides go from here.

 

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Check out these resources from today’s episode: 

 

• Keep up with the latest developments in the battle between Mayor Lightfoot and the police unions in Chicago: https://www.wbez.org/stories/covid-19-vaccine-requirement-for-chicago-police-suspended-by-judge/dab4dfc5-8985-4a26-84f4-4024e4b745e2
• And watch FOP President John Catanzara's reaction to the latest ruling: https://youtu.be/X1pIeHjiFSI 
• Learn more about Chicago’s employee vaccination policy: https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/dhr/supp_info/city-of-chicago-employee-vaccination-policy.html 
• Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ 
• Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 

 

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Andy calls up pediatrician and vaccinologist Dr. Paul Offit, who just voted to recommend that the FDA approve Pfizer's vaccine for 5-11 year olds. They discuss the vaccine advisory committee's deliberations, what the data show about side effects like myocarditis, how to think about the decision from a parent's perspective, and whether or not schools should require that eligible kids be vaccinated against COVID-19. Plus, Andy breaks down what you need to know about COP26, the global climate summit that is now underway in Glasgow.

 

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Check out these resources from today’s episode: 

 

• Keep track of what’s happening at COP26 in Glasgow: https://ukcop26.org/
• Learn more about Speed and Scale: An Action Plan for Solving Our Climate Crisis Now, and pre-order your copy, here: https://speedandscale.com/
• Check out this timeline for the kids COVID vaccine authorization: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/10/28/1050189443/heres-the-timeline-for-the-kids-covid-vaccine-authorization 
• Listen to Paul talk more about Philadelphia’s 1991 measles vaccine mandate: https://www.npr.org/2019/04/14/713195751/how-philadelphia-mandated-vaccinations-in-1991 
• Here’s the Kaiser Family Foundation survey looking at parents’ attitudes towards COVID-19 vaccinations for children: https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/poll-finding/kff-covid-19-vaccine-monitor-october-2021/ 
• Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ 
• Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 

 

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Andy begins with the big news: a vaccine for kids seems imminent. He breaks down the FDA vaccine advisory committee’s vote recommending authorization of the Pfizer vaccine, and outlines the next steps to get shots for 5-11 year-olds as soon as possible. Then, he calls up Dr. Richard Besser, President and CEO of the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation. They discuss what our response to COVID could mean for future public health crises and how we come back from the entrenched, tribalistic camps we find ourselves in today. Plus, the lessons we should be taking away from the death of General Colin Powell.

 

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Check out these resources from today’s episode: 

 

• Learn more about the next steps for the vaccine for kids: https://abcnews.go.com/Health/fda-panel-greenlights-vaccines-kids-kicking-off-authorization/story?id=80778124
• Here’s more from Rich on the vaccine for kids: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-vaccine-kids-pediatrician-questions-answers/
• Read more on Colin Powell, and how to think about his death and breakthrough infections in people who are immunocompromised: https://slate.com/technology/2021/10/colin-powell-vaccine-breakthrough-infection-concern.html
• Learn more about Arkansas Governor Asa Hutchinson’s change of heart on mask mandates: https://www.npr.org/2021/08/04/1024939859/arkansas-governor-reverse-law-let-schools-require-masks
• Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ 
• Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 

 

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