Heartland Vice President Jim Lakely and Executive Editor Justin Haskins are joined by Isaac Orr of the Center of the American Experiment for episode 241 of the In The Tank Podcast.

The guys revisit discussing COVID-19 after a two-week hiatus from that topic, focusing on the liberty we've lost from power-mad governors who have locked down their states indefinitely. The discussion gets a little heated as Justin pushes back at Jim and Isaac about whether these lockdowns are legal, constitutional, and what the people should do to resist. Justin said after the podcast that "Jim sounded like a lunatic" ... surely in jest. But you be the judge!