When sitting down with a storyteller like Rosemary Morrow for a series of open conversations about her life and work that spans decades, and results in more than 10 hours of recordings, it's never clear what will emerge. Today's episode is a great example of that, as in a few moments while we discussed other things, Rowe mentioned working with the folks at Perma Queer and shared her thoughts on how to use one’s position, role, and respect within a community to make space for marginalized voices, and the importance of inclusion in permaculture as part of the teachings.