Dr. John Sherwood of Naval History and Heritage Command interviews former Acting Secretary of the Navy, Thomas Modly. A 1983 U.S. Naval Academy graduate, Modly is the author of the new book, Vectors: Heroes, Villains, and Heartbreak on the Bridge of the U.S. Navy (2023). In this episode, Sherwood and Modly discuss the COVID-19 outbreak on the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt in early 2020, Modly's decision to relieve the ship’s commanding officer, and his trip to Guam to visit the ship’s crew, and his resignation shortly after that trip. The episode concludes with a discussion about Modly’s legacy and his efforts to increase the size of the fleet.