Today, were sharing an episode of When Magic Happens, a new podcast from WBEZ Chicago, where intergenerational convos of love and laughter collide. In this episode were discussing ambition.

Weve all heard the tired saying be twice as good to get half. This week Cheryle, Jennifer and Taylor talk about weaponized ambition and finding motivation at different phases in life. Then, Cook County States Attorney Kim Foxx reflects on her political journey, the battles shes fought behind closed doors and the things that keep her rooted throughout the challenges of public-facing ambition.

Find When Magic Happens from WBEZ Chicago wherever you listen to podcasts.