In this episode, John Nicola, Chairman and CEO of Nicola Wealth, is joined by Howard Marks, Co-Chair of Oaktree Capital Management. Together, they explore the current economic landscape. They begin the conversation with insights on interest rates and inflation, then delve into topics like bargain and behavioural investing. The discussion also touches on the potential sources of returns—whether from beta or alpha activity. The episode ends with Howard sharing valuable advice for investors navigating the uncertainties in the months ahead.