The American foreign policy tradition has been recently dominated by just a few ideologies: neoconservatism of the Regan and George W. Bush eras and the liberal internationalism of the Clinton and Obama administrations.

Robert Wright, has helped to introduce and popularize a new kind of intellectual tradition to the public square called "Progressive Realism." He explains some key principals of a progressive-realist foreign policy and how this ideology might be applied to some key foreign policy challenges, including competition with China and conflict in the middle east.

Guest: Robert Wright is the author of several books, including NonZero: The Logic of Human Destiny and runs a newsletter of the same name.