Today, we're talking to Etienne de Bruin, Founder of 7CTOs. We discuss why organizations need to operate in a "liquid" state between frozen and boiling, how complex adaptive systems impact technology leadership, and why financial savvy is becoming increasingly crucial for CTOs in the modern business landscape.

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All of this right here, right now, on the Modern CTO Podcast! 

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