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What happens when your friends start talking about demons, portals, and zombies? On October 2, 2020, key insider Zulema Pastenes sat down with police and described the chilling, bizarre reality of her life inside Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell's inner circle.
In this special dramatized episode, Afterglow takes you inside the interrogation room to hear Zulema's own story. Listen as she details the "web of lies and deceit" woven by the "master manipulators," the doctrine of "multiple creations" that placed them above the law, and the terrifying belief that Charles Vallow was no longer human, but a zombie named "Hiplos." This is the firsthand account of how a group of seemingly normal people were convinced that murder was a divine mission, culminating in the shocking justification from killer Alex Cox: "It was a zombie that I killed."
AI voices are the actors in the dramatization.
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© [2025] [Kathryn Brooks]. All rights reserved.
Follow on YouTube: Left Undone Incomplete Investigations for so many Videos of this case and more https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcP74RUcUliZ5von9YOz-5Q
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What happens when your friends start talking about demons, portals, and zombies? On October 2, 2020, key insider Zulema Pastenes sat down with police and described the chilling, bizarre reality of her life inside Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell's inner circle.
In this special dramatized episode, Afterglow takes you inside the interrogation room to hear Zulema's own story. Listen as she details the "web of lies and deceit" woven by the "master manipulators," the doctrine of "multiple creations" that placed them above the law, and the terrifying belief that Charles Vallow was no longer human, but a zombie named "Hiplos." This is the firsthand account of how a group of seemingly normal people were convinced that murder was a divine mission, culminating in the shocking justification from killer Alex Cox: "It was a zombie that I killed."
AI voices are the actors in the dramatization.
Support the show
Subscribe to Afterglow for new episodes every Monday!
Leave a review on Apple Podcasts!
© [2025] [Kathryn Brooks]. All rights reserved.
Follow on YouTube: Left Undone Incomplete Investigations for so many Videos of this case and more https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcP74RUcUliZ5von9YOz-5Q
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