This week on the program, Justin and Jon talk about:

• A friend, whose SaaS has grown 300% since the beginning of the quarantine. They just hit $6k in MRR.
• At that stage, he's in the "almost but not yet."
• You're either:
  • Brainstorming how to make money faster
  • Brainstorming how to work less
• Different stages:
  • Pre-launch stage: you're working on your product on the side. It's fun! There's nothing stealing your time and attention because you don't have customers yet.
  • The beta stage: still pretty fun! You have a few customers who are using your product, and maybe paying you money.
  • The "launched" stage: now, you have way more users. Now you're doing way more customer support, responding to feature requests.
• How much did we work when we were building Transistor?
  • Jon figures we spent 45 to 60 hours a week (each).
• Jason Calacanis’ tweet: "It takes 100 hours per week to build a business!"
• “Good businesses have margin."
• Josh Wood: "At Honeybadger, we work 30 hours per week."
• Margin gives you the opportunity, as a founder, to live beyond your keyboard. To engage with the world.
• Sandy Hudson (Sandra & Nora podcast): "The quarantine gave people the time and space to wrestle with the current moment."
• The Dept of Veteran Affairs
• "As your little baby Rails app grows up, you can't just run everything on the same service."
• "The whole internet is just patchwork of pipes and duct tape." 

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★ Bootstrapper shout-out of the week:

• LessAccounting
• https://www.lessaccounting.com/
• Cloud base accounting software and services for non-accountants. This used to be owned by Allan Branch (Paul Kogan owns it now). It’s specifically designed for small businesses with 1-25 employees and contractors

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