Jake Tapper wrote the NY Times bestselling nonfiction books The Outpost: An Untold Story of American Valor, which was turned into a critically acclaimed film in 2020, and this year’s ORIGINAL SIN: President Biden’s Decline, Its Cover-up, and His Disastrous Choice to Run Again. He’s also written two New York Times bestselling novels, The Hellfire Club and The Devil May Dance, He is an Emmy Award-winning TV journalist as lead DC anchor and chief Washington correspondent for CNN. His new book, RACE AGAINST TERROR: Chasing an Al Qaeda Killer at the Dawn of the Forever War, comes out Tuesday October 7th.

Jake and I talk a little sports and then dive into the government shutdown and his terrific new non-fiction thriller.

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Produced by Andy Ostroy, Matty Rosenberg, and Jennifer Hammoud