We got together with James Baker of The Tipping Point, and Terry Curry of Ottawa Custom Clothing. They are running their own businesses under the same roof, and while it may be unclear at times where one business starts and the other ends, their goals are shared in pushing each other forward. Topics of discussion include: Navigating partnerships, AI art, press teams, OSHA projects, possibly expanding into embroidery, improving work environments, and the singular redeeming quality of Ottawa.