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Jan-Benedict Steenkamp on Time to Lead and Lessons for Today's Leaders from Bold Decisions that Changed History


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In this episode, Dustin talks with Jan-Benedict Steenkamp about his book, Time to Lead, and how historical leadership examples might help us improve our skills better than the latest management fads.

You'll discover how to use your emotions to think, not think with your emotions, so that you can make your followers part of something larger than themselves. Professor Steenkamp shares 16 well-researched and carefully-curated historical case studies of world leaders that can help you deepen your wisdom, clarify your thinking and improve your outcomes as a leader.

Jan-Benedict says, "Everybody can improve their leadership qualities by reading about other leaders, how they resolved their dilemmas, and why they were successful." You'll learn the four types of leadership metaphors: the hedgehog, the fox, the eagle and the ostrich. Adapted from Isaiah Berlin’s review of the Greek poet Archilochus' statement that “the fox knows many smaller things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.” He writes, “According to Berlin, the distinction between hedgehogs and foxes marks one of the deepest differences, which divide human beings."

On the program, we discuss how Franklin Delano Roosevelt persuaded a war-weary nation to enter the Second World War, how the best leaders know very well where they want to go but are not dogmatic in the means they use to get there and why you should not attempt to become a kind of person you are not.

Links Mentioned in The Burleson Box:

  • Time to Lead Book 
  • Professor Steenkamp's Website
  • In Search of Excellence Book
  • UNC Kenen-Flagler Business School

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