By Dustin Burleson DDS MBA
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In this episode of The Burleson Box, Dustin Burleson sits down with Francesca Sipma, a breathwork coach, entrepreneur, and creator of Hypno Breathwork. Francesca shares her journey from the corporate world to becoming a leading figure in breathwork, detailing how it has helped her and countless others unlock their full potential. Her new book, Unblock Your Purpose, dives into healing past traumas, aligning with the present, and creating a purposeful future.
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You know orthodontics, we know how to grow your practice. Start More Smiles with OrthoFi.
OrthoFi is the industry-leading solution for patient acquisition, insurance management, and patient collections. Our end-to-end software and services help practices achieve dynamic growth, balanced cash flow, and smoother operations.
OrthoFi's practices experience a 2.25 times higher same-day conversion rate compared to the industry average, thanks to our expertise in same-day contracts. We take on the full burden of managing patient onboarding, collections, and insurance processing, allowing your team to focus on delivering best-in-class service.
Our comprehensive 180-day collection protocol sets the gold standard for delinquency management, achieving an average net collection rate of 98%.
Dr. Tara Gostovich of TG Orthodontics shared:
"I feel like the cost is less than a staff member, but yet you have an entire team. So, I don't look at the cost of OrthoFi as it's too expensive. It's too expensive to not have it."
Learn more today at StartMoreSmiles.com
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In this episode of The Burleson Box, we sit down with Dr. Ben Fishbein, a powerhouse in the orthodontic world, founder of Fishbein Orthodontics, and the driving force behind Fishbein Fundamentals. With nine offices and a track record of exceptional patient care and practice growth, Dr. Fishbein has transformed the business of orthodontics. We dive deep into his journey, from expanding his practice to delegating effectively, and the importance of knowing what you truly want before pursuing growth.
Dr. Fishbein also shares insights into the Fishbein Foundation and their community work, providing free orthodontic care to children who need it most. His dedication to growth, both professionally and philanthropically, is truly inspiring. Whether you’re a dentist, orthodontist, or practice manager, you’ll walk away with actionable takeaways on building a successful practice and giving back to your community.
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The Burleson Box is brought to you by OrthoFi:
You know orthodontics, we know how to grow your practice. Start More Smiles with OrthoFi.
OrthoFi is the industry-leading solution for patient acquisition, insurance management, and patient collections. Our end-to-end software and services help practices achieve dynamic growth, balanced cash flow, and smoother operations.
OrthoFi's practices experience a 2.25 times higher same-day conversion rate compared to the industry average, thanks to our expertise in same-day contracts. We take on the full burden of managing patient onboarding, collections, and insurance processing, allowing your team to focus on delivering best-in-class service.
Our comprehensive 180-day collection protocol sets the gold standard for delinquency management, achieving an average net collection rate of 98%.
Dr. Tara Gostovich of TG Orthodontics shared:
"I feel like the cost is less than a staff member, but yet you have an entire team. So, I don't look at the cost of OrthoFi as it's too expensive. It's too expensive to not have it."
Learn more today at StartMoreSmiles.com
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Go Premium: Members get early access, ad-free episodes, hand-edited transcripts, exclusive study guides, special edition books each quarter, powerpoint and keynote presentations and two tickets to Dustin Burleson's Annual Leadership Retreat.
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Stay Up to Date: Sign up for The Burleson Report, our weekly newsletter that is delivered each Sunday with timeless insight for life and private practice. Sign up here:
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In this episode of The Burleson Box, Dr. Dustin Burleson sits down with Dr. Rooz Khosravi, a trailblazer in digital orthodontics and interdisciplinary treatment planning. Dr. Khosravi shares insights from his years of experience in implementing digital solutions within orthodontic practices, discussing how digital tools such as 3D printing and aligner therapy have revolutionized patient care. He emphasizes the critical role of collaboration between orthodontists and other dental specialists in delivering optimal treatment outcomes, noting how digital dentistry can simplify complex interdisciplinary cases.
Listeners will hear about Dr. Khosravi’s journey, from his early exposure to dentistry in his mother's practice to his cutting-edge work at PORTH Personalized Orthodontics, where he leads fully digital clinics. Dr. Khosravi also reflects on the barriers to adopting interdisciplinary care and how digital solutions can help overcome them, offering practical advice on integrating technology into everyday practice. Whether you are looking to enhance patient care or streamline operations, this conversation is packed with valuable takeaways for orthodontists, dentists, and anyone interested in the future of dental technology.
Tune in for a deep dive into how technology is reshaping the field of orthodontics and interdisciplinary care, and learn how to implement these innovations in your own practice.
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The Burleson Box is brought to you by OrthoFi:
You know orthodontics, we know how to grow your practice. Start More Smiles with OrthoFi.
OrthoFi is the industry-leading solution for patient acquisition, insurance management, and patient collections. Our end-to-end software and services help practices achieve dynamic growth, balanced cash flow, and smoother operations.
OrthoFi's practices experience a 2.25 times higher same-day conversion rate compared to the industry average, thanks to our expertise in same-day contracts. We take on the full burden of managing patient onboarding, collections, and insurance processing, allowing your team to focus on delivering best-in-class service.
Our comprehensive 180-day collection protocol sets the gold standard for delinquency management, achieving an average net collection rate of 98%.
Dr. Tara Gostovich of TG Orthodontics shared:
"I feel like the cost is less than a staff member, but yet you have an entire team. So, I don't look at the cost of OrthoFi as it's too expensive. It's too expensive to not have it."
Learn more today at StartMoreSmiles.com
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Resources Mentioned in the Episode with Dr. Rooz Khosravi
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Stay Up to Date: Sign up for The Burleson Report, our weekly newsletter that is delivered each Sunday with timeless insight for life and private practice. Sign up here:
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In this episode, I speak with Dr. Scott De Rossi about the questions that shape our personal and professional journeys. Our guest opens up about the reflective questions that have guided his path, offering a treasure trove of insights for anyone looking to evolve and grow.
One of the most compelling aspects of the discussion revolves around the concept of mastery. Dr. De Rossi poses the question, "What mastery have I developed that I can offer?" This invites us to reflect on our unique skills and how they can be leveraged to make a meaningful impact. It's a call to recognize and hone our strengths, ensuring that we bring our best selves to every endeavor.
Another pivotal question is, "What do I want my days to look like?" This isn't just about career aspirations but about envisioning a holistic life that brings joy and fulfillment. It's about balancing professional ambitions with personal happiness, and understanding the trade-offs we're willing to make. Dr. De Rossi emphasizes the importance of this balance, urging listeners to create a life that they won't look back on with regret.
The episode also touches on the idea of continuous improvement. "What's getting better about my life?" is a question that encourages us to celebrate our progress, no matter how small. It's a reminder that growth is a journey, and every step forward is a victory.
Perhaps the most profound question discussed is, "How do I tap into my purpose and my superpower?" Our guest shares the realization that his true strength lies in connecting people, ideas, and resources to advance health and education. This insight is a powerful testament to the impact of finding and harnessing one's unique abilities.
By the end of the episode, listeners are left with a toolkit of questions that can guide their own journeys. Whether you're looking to advance in your career, improve your personal life, or make a difference in the world, these questions offer a roadmap to success.
Tune in to this enlightening episode to discover how you can connect people, ideas, and resources to create positive change in health and education. It's a conversation that promises to inspire and empower you to tap into your own purpose and superpower.
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The Burleson Box is brought to you by OrthoFi:
You know orthodontics, we know how to grow your practice. Start More Smiles with OrthoFi.
OrthoFi is the industry-leading solution for patient acquisition, insurance management, and patient collections. Our end-to-end software and services help practices achieve dynamic growth, balanced cash flow, and smoother operations.
OrthoFi's practices experience a 2.25 times higher same-day conversion rate compared to the industry average, thanks to our expertise in same-day contracts. We take on the full burden of managing patient onboarding, collections, and insurance processing, allowing your team to focus on delivering best-in-class service.
Our comprehensive 180-day collection protocol sets the gold standard for delinquency management, achieving an average net collection rate of 98%.
Dr. Tara Gostovich of TG Orthodontics shared:
"I feel like the cost is less than a staff member, but yet you have an entire team. So, I don't look at the cost of OrthoFi as it's too expensive. It's too expensive to not have it."
Learn more today at StartMoreSmiles.com
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Resources Mentioned in the Episode with Dr. Scott De Rossi:
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Go Premium: Members get early access, ad-free episodes, hand-edited transcripts, exclusive study guides, special edition books each quarter, powerpoint and keynote presentations and two tickets to Dustin Burleson's Annual Leadership Retreat.
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Stay Up to Date: Sign up for The Burleson Report, our weekly newsletter that is delivered each Sunday with timeless insight for life and private practice. Sign up here:
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Drawing from the largest data set of consumer buying habits in orthodontics, Reynolds and Gelles reveal a statistical approach to running a successful practice. Their system, developed with orthodontist Jeff Kozlowski and engineer Dave Ternan, eliminates guesswork and trial-and-error, setting a new gold standard for practice management.
With insights from 430,000 patient starts and over $2.2 billion in production, the book demonstrates how data analytics can increase starts, production, and profits. Reynolds and Gelles provide practical steps to implement unique payment solutions, improve cash flow, streamline insurance processing, and more.
If you're ready to transform your practice, "Level the Curve" is your key to unlocking greater efficiency and profitability. I'm excited to dig into the conversation today with Oliver Gelles.
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The Burleson Box is brought to you by Retainer Club:
Realize new revenue in your practice this year with Retainer Club! Upgrading your retainer program has never been more straightforward. Patients want online and easy. You want simple and profitable. Retainer Club gives you both. Built by dental professionals, Retainer Club’s technology platform is built to manage everything about your retainer program including billing, retainer fulfillment, KPI data and more.
Retainer Club's customized Smile Care Plan allows you to offer a flexible membership program that brings 5 new revenue streams to grow your practice. Retainer Club's platform gives patients access to easy, fast, affordable online retainer ordering 24/7, and regular retainer replacement without ever having to call your office.
On average, a Smile Care Plan can increase your practice revenue by $100,000 annually. We have built our program with first-hand industry insights to support the needs of practices and DSOs from the ground up. From on-boarding and client success planning to tech-enabled marketing solutions to support new patient growth, Retainer Club has you covered. Get started today at RetainerClub.com
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Resources Mentioned in the Episode with Oliver Gelles:
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Stay Up to Date: Sign up for The Burleson Report, our weekly newsletter that is delivered each Sunday with timeless insight for life and private practice. Sign up here:
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In this episode we have the pleasure of speaking with Mike Wysocki, a seasoned author and sociologist who has spent years delving into the real-life experiences of professionals across various industries. His book, Careers By the People, provides a unique and authentic perspective on career choices, making it an invaluable resource for anyone at a crossroads in their professional journey. This episode is especially relevant for dentists and orthodontists who are looking to recommend insightful career guidance to their children and young patients.
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In this enlightening episode, we sit down with Mike Wysocki to discuss his book, Careers By the People. After three decades in corporate America, Mike ventured into a sociological exploration to uncover the true nature of various professions. His book features 101 candid responses from industry veterans, offering an insider's look at the highs and lows of their careers.
Mike shares how these real-world insights can help young people, including the children of dentists and orthodontists, make informed career choices. Through a Q&A format, the book reveals daily routines, common challenges, and the fulfilling aspects of different jobs, all told with a blend of humor and unfiltered honesty. Tune in to discover how this dynamic career guide can demystify the world of work and support the next generation in finding their ideal path.
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The Burleson Box is brought to you by Retainer Club:
Realize new revenue in your practice this year with Retainer Club! Upgrading your retainer program has never been more straightforward. Patients want online and easy. You want simple and profitable. Retainer Club gives you both. Built by dental professionals, Retainer Club’s technology platform is built to manage everything about your retainer program including billing, retainer fulfillment, KPI data and more.
Retainer Club's customized Smile Care Plan allows you to offer a flexible membership program that brings 5 new revenue streams to grow your practice. Retainer Club's platform gives patients access to easy, fast, affordable online retainer ordering 24/7, and regular retainer replacement without ever having to call your office.
On average, a Smile Care Plan can increase your practice revenue by $100,000 annually. We have built our program with first-hand industry insights to support the needs of practices and DSOs from the ground up. From on-boarding and client success planning to tech-enabled marketing solutions to support new patient growth, Retainer Club has you covered. Get started today at RetainerClub.com
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Stay Up to Date: Sign up for The Burleson Report, our weekly newsletter that is delivered each Sunday with timeless insight for life and private practice. Sign up here:
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Ryan Hawk discusses the impact of external scoreboards on our sense of self-worth and the importance of distinguishing between external validation and internal fulfillment. He explores how societal norms often dictate how success is measured and how this can limit our potential for growth and excellence.
Using examples from Serena Williams to Thomas Edison, Hawk challenge the conventional definition of success and encourages listeners to pursue excellence on their own terms. We examine common pitfalls in how society measures success and offer insights into unlocking one's highest potential.
On the topics of self-awareness and excellence, Hawk emphasizes the role of self-awareness as the foundation for excellence, highlighting the difference between success and excellence. We discuss the importance of introspection and continuous improvement in the pursuit of personal and professional growth. Drawing from a story about President Obama's speechwriter, Cody Keenan, listeners can explore the nature of fear and strategies for overcoming it.
In the tradition of stoicism, Hawk discuss the significance of contemplating mortality as a means of living a more fulfilling life, including the exercise of writing one's own eulogy. Listeners will learn how confronting the reality of death can cultivate a sense of urgency and clarity in pursuing meaningful goals.
The E + R = O Formula. Hawk unpacks the formula introduced by performance coach Tim Kight, emphasizing the importance of focusing on one's response to events. We review practical applications of the formula in personal and professional contexts, highlighting the power of mindset in shaping outcomes.
Hawk shares a personal anecdote from caddying for his brother at the Tahoe Celebrity Golf Tournament, emphasizing the importance of focusing on one's own journey. We introduce the concept of Level 5 moments, defining them as transformative experiences that reveal one's true character and explore the significance of these moments in shaping personal and professional development and offer strategies for recognizing and embracing them.
Join us for this thought-provoking exploration of excellence, self-awareness, and the pursuit of meaningful success. Hawk and Cupps provide actionable insights and inspiring anecdotes that challenge listeners to redefine their approach to personal and professional growth.
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The Burleson Box is brought to you by Retainer Club:
Realize new revenue in your practice this year with Retainer Club! Upgrading your retainer program has never been more straightforward. Patients want online and easy. You want simple and profitable. Retainer Club gives you both. Built by dental professionals, Retainer Club’s technology platform is built to manage everything about your retainer program including billing, retainer fulfillment, KPI data and more.
Retainer Club's customized Smile Care Plan allows you to offer a flexible membership program that brings 5 new revenue streams to grow your practice. Retainer Club's platform gives patients access to easy, fast, affordable online retainer ordering 24/7, and regular retainer replacement without ever having to call your office.
On average, a Smile Care Plan can increase your practice revenue by $100,000 annually. We have built our program with first-hand industry insights to support the needs of practices and DSOs from the ground up. From on-boarding and client success planning to tech-enabled marketing solutions to support new patient growth, Retainer Club has you covered. Get started today at RetainerClub.com
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Resources Mentioned in the Episode with Ryan Hawk:
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Stay Up to Date: Sign up for The Burleson Report, our weekly newsletter that is delivered each Sunday with timeless insight for life and private practice. Sign up here:
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Every organization is plagued by destructive friction—the forces that make it harder, more complicated, or downright impossible to get anything done. Yet some forms of friction are incredibly useful, and leaders who attempt to improve workplace efficiency often make things even worse. Drawing from seven years of hands-on research, The Friction Project by bestselling authors Robert I. Sutton and Huggy Rao teaches readers how to become “friction fixers,” so that teams and organizations don’t squander the zeal, damage the health, and throttle the creativity and productivity of good people—or burn through cash and other precious resources.
Sutton and Rao kick off the book by unpacking how skilled friction fixers think and act like trustees of others’ time. They provide friction forensics to help readers identify where to avert and repair bad organizational friction and where to maintain and inject good friction. Then their help pyramid shows how friction fixers do their work, which ranges from reframing friction troubles they can’t fix right now so they feel less threatening to designing and repairing organizations. The heart of book digs into the causes and solutions for five of the most common and damaging friction troubles: oblivious leaders, addition sickness, broken connections, jargon monoxide, and fast and frenzied people and teams.
Sound familiar? Sutton and Rao are here to help. They wrap things up with lessons for leading your own friction project, including linking little things to big things; the power of civility, caring, and love for propelling designs and repairs; and embracing the mess that is an inevitable part of the process (while still trying to clean it up).
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The Burleson Box is brought to you by Retainer Club:
Realize new revenue in your practice this year with Retainer Club! Upgrading your retainer program has never been more straightforward. Patients want online and easy. You want simple and profitable. Retainer Club gives you both. Built by dental professionals, Retainer Club’s technology platform is built to manage everything about your retainer program including billing, retainer fulfillment, KPI data and more.
Retainer Club's customized Smile Care Plan allows you to offer a flexible membership program that brings 5 new revenue streams to grow your practice. Retainer Club's platform gives patients access to easy, fast, affordable online retainer ordering 24/7, and regular retainer replacement without ever having to call your office.
On average, a Smile Care Plan can increase your practice revenue by $100,000 annually. We have built our program with first-hand industry insights to support the needs of practices and DSOs from the ground up. From on-boarding and client success planning to tech-enabled marketing solutions to support new patient growth, Retainer Club has you covered. Get started today at RetainerClub.com
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Resources Mentioned in the Episode with Bob Sutton:
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Stay Up to Date: Sign up for The Burleson Report, our weekly newsletter that is delivered each Sunday with timeless insight for life and private practice. Sign up here:
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We all want to be great leaders who are confident, productive, and highly energized. But if you don’t learn foundational leadership skills, research shows you will face problems with communication, performance, engagement, and employee retention. The stakes are high. How can you quickly learn essential leadership skills?
The Three Chairs provides a proven leadership framework to transform anyone’s ability to lead others. It’s the simplicity of this model that has led to this book reaching #2 on The Wall Street Journal, USA Today and #1 Amazon’s bestselling lists. Dr. Karyn Gordon's unique approach will show you how to:
Learn simple tools you can easily apply at work and home that get results for everyone from CEO’s to students. Understand yourself more clearly, engage more deeply with others, and equip yourself to be a confident, great leader!
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The Burleson Box is brought to you by In Hand Dental:
Are you trying to increase your treatment plan close rates while also increasing revenue? How can you do both for your dental practice without burning out an already burdened staff?
The answer? Remote dental monitoring. You need a trusted HIPAA-compliant app that helps you and your staff work smarter, not harder. This needs to be an easy to use, easy onboard app that your patients will find fun to use, and will increase their engagement and success with aligners.
You need the In-Hand Dental App. The In-Hand Dental App allows you to engage with your patients in real time, send individual and batched messages, and solve problems to increase compliance without using up chair time.
The result? Happy patients, happy staff, and happy practices. With more revenue, and the ability to do more starts. With prices starting as low as $149 per month, it's perfect for a growing aligner business. Check us out and learn more at InHandDental.com
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Resources Mentioned in the Episode with Karyn Gordon:
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Go Premium: Members get early access, ad-free episodes, hand-edited transcripts, exclusive study guides, special edition books each quarter, powerpoint and keynote presentations and two tickets to Dustin Burleson's Annual Leadership Retreat.
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Stay Up to Date: Sign up for The Burleson Report, our weekly newsletter that is delivered each Sunday with timeless insight for life and private practice. Sign up here:
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Surrender The Outcome is a leadership fable that follows the progress of a longtime basketball coach, Mick, through his traditional, transactional approach to coaching to a new refreshing, impactful, and transformational approach to life. Along the way he receives great wisdom from those closest to him.
Mick is your typical coach to start: focused on winning the next game while appearing to maintain complete control of his team. In his chase for wins, he wins some and loses some like all coaches. Regardless of the record, Mick always finishes the season frustrated and disappointed that his team couldn't squeeze out a few more wins.
Through many failures and much self-reflection, Mick moves beyond the race for wins and discovers a better way to gauge success-on the court and in life. As he begins to focus on his values outside the coaching box, Mick realizes this new approach isn't only better for his team but also for his family and personal life.
Mick's journey towards his own definition of success leads him to the realization of a powerful process that can transform the impact of all leaders regardless of their area of influence. By focusing on gaining self-awareness
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The Burleson Box is brought to you by In Hand Dental:
Are you trying to increase your treatment plan close rates while also increasing revenue? How can you do both for your dental practice without burning out an already burdened staff?
The answer? Remote dental monitoring. You need a trusted HIPAA-compliant app that helps you and your staff work smarter, not harder. This needs to be an easy to use, easy onboard app that your patients will find fun to use, and will increase their engagement and success with aligners.
You need the In-Hand Dental App. The In-Hand Dental App allows you to engage with your patients in real time, send individual and batched messages, and solve problems to increase compliance without using up chair time.
The result? Happy patients, happy staff, and happy practices. With more revenue, and the ability to do more starts. With prices starting as low as $149 per month, it's perfect for a growing aligner business. Check us out and learn more at InHandDental.com
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Resources Mentioned in the Episode with Coach Cupps:
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Stay Up to Date: Sign up for The Burleson Report, our weekly newsletter that is delivered each Sunday with timeless insight for life and private practice. Sign up here:
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