Jessica Dimmock is an award-winning director with 2 Emmy nominations, 1 Emmy award, a Guggenheim Fellowship, Cinema Eye Honors and IDA nominations. She directed documentary series and films Flint Town, Captive Audience, The Texas Killing Fields, The Weekly, and Home… and the feature documentary The Pearl. And she’s with us today to discuss her new documentary THOUGHTS & PRAYERS: HOW TO SURVIVE AN ACTIVE SHOOTER IN AMERICA, which can be seen on HBO MAX

Jessica and I discuss her terrific new film, co-directed with her husband Zackary Canepari, which focuses on the gun-violence epidemic in America and how it's led to lockdown and active-shooter drills in schools; whether these realistic and terrifying drills cause more harm than good with our children; and the $3-billion preparedness products industry.

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Produced by Andy Ostroy, Matty Rosenberg, and Jennifer Hammoud