This week, some apocalyptic predictions from Jesus spark a debate on the podcast about whether the violence of the Bible is really divine judgement. Peter Walsh, Elizabeth Garnsey, and John Kennedy take a closer look at how Jesus' predictions about the temple falling were bad news in his time but good news in Mark's, how Christians underestimate the importance of these events, and how Jesus became the new temple.

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