Jon's come a long way from printing through panty hose and renting from a questionable landlord, but We Make Shirts isn't trying to become a 30 press shop either. They're happily serving their local community, business is good, and that level of comfortability is something we can all strive for. Topics of discussion include: Our first SSSNL, Reverse bippage, new merch, remembering names, mission statements, making screens by hand, staying motivated, creative blocks, replaying conversations, promo products, and Shirt Show tattoos.