Since 2015 Jonathan A. Greenblatt has served as the CEO of the Anti-Defamation League, more commonly knows as the ADL…and is its sixth National Director. He leads all aspects of the world’s leading anti-hate organization…whose mission since its founding in 1913 is to fight the defamation of the Jewish people, and to secure justice and fair treatment to all. In 2022, Jonathan released It Could Happen Here, a book that sounds an alarm, warning that hate and systemic violence is gathering momentum in the United States – and that violence on a more catastrophic scale could be just around the corner.

Jonathan and I have an insightful, frank conversation about the alarming rise of antisemitism and hate crimes, Israel and Gaza, the impact of Trump's rhetoric, Mamdani and progressive populism, and more.

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This episode was produced by Andy Ostroy and Jennifer Hammoud

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