While you're listening to this episode, 2016-17 CASBS fellow Jonathan Jansen likely will write another few thousand words. As a scholar of education & leader of education institutions, Jansen is South Africa's most towering figure. To call him prolific is a gross understatement. He writes a steady stream of books & more books. As a public intellectual he writes a separate steady stream of columns & essays. And he's written a family memoir too. We bring 2022-23 CASBS fellow Zimitri Erasmus, a social anthropologist who is working on a book on writing praxis, in conversation with Jansen to unlock some secrets & insights into his most powerful & liberating weapon for engaging the world – writing.

JONATHAN JANSEN
on Google Scholar
Jansen website

Mentioned in the episode
Corrupted: A Study of Chronic Dysfunction in South African Universities (2023)
Song for Sarah: Lessons from my Mother (2017)

Jansen and CASBS
"Loving and Blacking" (symposium, 2017)
"Higher Ed at the Crossroads" (webcast, 2020)

ZIMITRI ERASMUS
CASBS page
on Google Scholar
at University of Witswatersrand


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