In this episode, Cally talks to neuroscientist Anil Seth about consciousness, neuroscience, sleep, wakefulness, Buddhism, empathy, the brain, the body, impermanence, hallucination, colour, science, philosophy, humans, animals and whether robots will ever be conscious.

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Anil's book

The Perception Census

Guardian article

Daniel Dennett book

Thomas Metzinger book

The Criminal Prosecution and Capital Punishment of Animals book

My Octopus Teacher on Netflix

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