Our guest today is music composer Amanda Jones, the first African-American woman to be nominated in the Outstanding Music Composition for a Documentary Series or Special for Original Dramatic Score for the episode "Maine" from Apple TV+'s documentary series Home. Black female composers are rarely ever nominated for Emmys and are less than 1% of the industry, which is why Jones's nomination is so significant. In this episode, we ask her the magnitude of her selection, what the "color" of her music is, her thoughts on pop music today, and whether she believes we should enter the era of gender-free award categories.

Mike and Jack also explore the damning assertions from former MSNBC producer Ariana Pekary's blunt blog entry about why she left TV news and why she is transitioning over to independent journalism, and they also discuss why Joe Biden's newly handpicked Vice-President, Kamala Harris, is about to face a serious revolt from Trump's base and right-wing media. Can she withstand the onslaught of bad press coming her way and how will she counter it?

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