This week Cody and Jimbo sit down with acclaimed author and journalist Kathryn Jones. Born in Hollywood, but raised in Texas near the King Ranch, Kathryn grew up with a love for western movies, and has been on a 20-plus year quest, researching and writing a soon to be released book on Ben Johnson called, "Tall in the Saddle, the Life of Ben Johnson, Hollywood's Real Cowboy". She tells some interesting stories on the life of Ben, some that we hadn't even heard here at the Ben Johnson Cowboy Museum. Kathryn interviewed countless friends and celebrity co-stars of Ben's, and went to great lengths to tell his story as accurately as possible. She has written for the Dallas Morning News, Time Magazine, and The New York Times. A very interesting lady and we think you will enjoy this podcast, and we can't wait for the book.