Today Preston is talking to Kyle Strobel. Preston and Kyle are talking about his new book "The Way of the Dragon or the Way of the Lamb: Searching for Jesus’ Path of Power in a Church that Has Abandoned It". They are also talking about the "celebrity pastor culture" the church of America is in today. Kyle is a teacher, writer and preacher. He is the assistant professor of Spiritual Theology and Formation at Talbot School of Theology, Biola University, and helped start Metamorpha Ministries. Kyle and his wife have lived in Scotland, Connecticut, Colorado and Arizona before settling down in Southern California, and they have two young children. You can Tweet at Kyle @KyleStrobel Support Preston Support Preston by going to patreon.com Connect with Preston Follow him on Twitter @PrestonSprinkle Check out his website prestonsprinkle.com If you enjoy the podcast, be sure to leave a review.