In this conversation, Calum and Kirsty discuss various challenges and potential obstacles that the Labour government may face in achieving their growth agenda. They touch on topics such as the employment rights bill, train drivers' pay, and a recent Supreme Court ruling on environmental impact assessments. Kirsty highlights the importance of working with businesses and considering unintended consequences in policy decisions. She also emphasizes the need for the government to deliver on their growth ambitions to maintain trust and prevent the rise of populism.

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