Late Night Live — Full program podcast

German philosopher Hanno Sauer argues that class hierarchies are a permanent feature of human societies. So if true equality is elusive, how do we live with class? Plus new revelations on the Cambridge Five - the young men who spied against Britain from the 1930s to the 1950s. 

Guests: 

• Hanno Sauer, Associate Professor of Philosophy at the Department of Philosophy & Religious Studies at Utrecht University. Guest of the Festival of Dangerous Ideas in Sydney
• Antonia Senior, author, journalist and co-host of the History Book Buffs podcast.  New book is Stalin’s Apostles: The Cambridge Five and the Making of the Soviet Empire

Our regular UK correspondent on the death of former Cambridge Professor Jason Arday. An accounting and ethics expert who has been following the KPMG case explains why some of the firm's activities are so controversial. And 'going out' - a colourful romp through the many ways that many cultures enjoy night life.

Guests: 

• Ian Dunt, columnist with i-news; co-host of the Origin Story podcast
• Tom Ravlic, journalist, author and academic who has been writing about the KPMG saga for Crikey, and The Mandarin
• Imogen Willetts, author of ‘Up All Night: A History of Going Out'

Political correspondent Anna Henderson surveys a busy sitting week, with the government eager to pass NDIS reforms. The Kingdom of Jordan, a neighbour of Israel, is trying to stay neutral in the Middle East war, but is caught between the US and Iran. And a look at how mining magnate Gina Rinehart attempts to control her public image. 

Guests: 

• Anna Henderson, chief political correspondent, SBS
• Nabih Bulos, Middle East bureau chief, Los Angeles Times
• Sarah Martin, senior correspondent for The Guardian Australia

Sovereign citizens believe they’ve discovered a hidden legal system that can set them free from the state. The new book Outlawed explores the strange world of pseudolaw, and what its rise tells us about trust, power and the law. Plus Late Night Live looks at the abiding popularity of calming 'night' music to help people sleep, and how 19th century composers like John Field, Chopin and others first brought us the musical concept of 'nocturnes'. And Late Night Live pays tribute to former producer, Kris Short.

Guests: 

• Harry Hobbs, Associate Professor in the Faculty of Law and Justice at the University of New South Wales, co-author, with Stephen Young, of Outlawed: Responding to the Global Rise of Sovereign Citizens and legal conspiracies.
• Susan Tomes, award-winning pianist and author of 'Nocturnes, and the fascination of night music'. 

James Baldwin’s writing was inseparable from the people he loved, mentored and collaborated with. A new biography explores the intimate relationships that shaped his novels, essays and plays, and his role in Black and queer literary history.From Harlem and Paris, to Istanbul and the American South, it reveals the private life behind one of the 20th century’s most influential writers.

• Guest: Nicholas Boggs, author of Baldwin: A Love Story
• Producer: Ali Benton 

Bruce Shapiro looks at the fight inside the Democrats between emerging populists and a conservative group called The Third Way. Imprisoned Palestinian leader Marwan Barghouti's son talks about his father plans to run for president of the Palestinian Authority, from jail.  Plus how an Australian harpsichord player discovered a three-hundred-year-old cantata by a Venetian contemporary of Antonio Vivaldi, who was a disabled female orphan. 

Guests: 

• Bruce Shapiro, contributing editor with The Nation magazine and Director of the Global Center for Journalism and Trauma. 
• Arab Barghouti, son of Fatah party leader, Marwan Barghouti
• Elizabeth Anderson, Assistant Artistic Director, Australian Chamber Choir

PM Albanese and Opposition Leader AngusTaylor are doing a deal on gambling. Saudi Arabia, Türkiye, and Pakistan have just signed a new NATO-like defence pact which commits each country to respond in the event of an attack on the other. So what are the implications for the Gulf conflict? Plus, from hieroglyphs to hashtags, the hidden history of punctuation and the tiny marks that have shaped how we communicate.

Guests: 

• Anna Henderson, SBS World News Chief Political Correspondent | National Press Club Director
• Professor Simon Mabon, Professor of International Politics at Lancaster University
• Florence Hazrat, author, On the Mark

Peter Garrent discusses the testimonies being presented at the crowdfunded AUKUS public inquiry which has so far recieved over 500 submissions, and heard from former PMs and ministers. Plus decades after Britain abolished slavery in its colonies, Australia was using Pacific island workers to harvest sugar, with many essentially held captive.

Guests:

• Peter Garrett, Lead Commissioner, AUKUS public inquiry, former Labor Minister
• Ryan Butta, author of 'Blackbirding: a reckoning with the Australian Slave Trade' 

In his new book, Crikey’s political editor, Bernard Keane, turns his eye not just to where Australia has gone wrong, but to how we can best position ourselves to navigate the triple threat of Trump, China and AI. Plus the eight thousand year history of wine - from Georgia to the present day.

Guests: 

• Bernard Keane, political editor, Crikey, and author of ‘Seize the Moment - Australia’s real opportunities in an unstable world,’
• Kathleen Burk, Professor Emerita of Modern and Contemporary history at University College London and author of  Wine, A global history

Ian Dunt on Nigel Farage's planned 'Operation Fortress', stopping all illegal boats. The Odyssey film-makers caused offence in an indigenous-owned region that Morocco claims as its own. And the push to rid Kangaroo Island of cats, both feral and pet.

Guests: 

• Ian Dunt, columnist with i-news, co-host of Origin Story podcast
• Sarah Yerkes, North Africa specialist and senior fellow with the Middle East program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peac
• Michael Pengilly, Mayor of Kangaroo Island