This episode is the first in our occasional series where leaders at Scotiabank interview experts on an issue that resonates with them. In this instalment, you'll hear a conversation about allyship hosted by Scotiabank’s Meigan Terry with academic, author and allyship expert Kenji Yoshino. They talk about the business case for allyship, give some concrete tips to be a better ally in the workplace and much more. 

Key moments this episode: 

1:51 — The business case for allyship 

4:01 — How allyship ties into large scale culture change 

6:24 — ‘Cancel culture’ vs ‘coaching culture’ 

11:20 — A useful tool for allyship in the workplace: the empathy triangle 

19:38 — How to best respond to feedback when you are the one not being a good ally 

20:32 — Kenji’s biggest ‘aha’ moment when it comes to being the ‘perfect’ ally 

22:52 — How to have conversations about allyship with someone who is skeptical in your organization 

23:42 — What is the 20/60/20 rule? 

26:55 — Why all of us will be the beneficiary of allyship someday