On the Two Gomers Podcast we talk a lot about how our phones suck up our energy, time, and attention, and how that’s bad for middle age health journey. So why it so hard to just stop looking at it so much? Because nature abhors a vacuum – you have to fill that screen-hole with something else. In this ep we talk about how putting pen to paper can be so much better than putting finger to screen. Plus Songs to Run To and of course, a ton of fun stuff along the way.

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