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What happens when your boss tells you that you’re capable and just need confidence, and nobody in the building knows what you’re carrying? Lydia Davis, founder of Right Track Wellbeing and host of Riding the Trauma Train, spent years in a high-pressure career wearing what she calls “the thickest mask ever,” keeping a childhood of sexual abuse out of sight while people pleasing kept her quiet at work.
Lydia and Beth talk about the day her colleagues sent her home, why “I need help, I am struggling” are the hardest words to say in a high-stakes role, and how saying them makes us better colleagues and better leaders. Beth connects Lydia’s story to the survival patterns behind leadership behavior and to The HEAL Framework™ (Hope, Evolve, And Love). Content note: this episode discusses childhood sexual abuse.
You, too, can heal.
Chapters:
00:00 Cold open
01:18 Meet Lydia Davis
06:22 Holding her daughter for the first time
07:24 People pleasing and the weight that protected her
11:04 The thickest mask at work
24:33 Movement as healing
27:46 The day work sent her home
30:37 Saying “I need help” in a high-pressure career
39:38 The Invisible Sign
42:23 Lydia’s work today
Connect with Lydia Davis: righttrackwellbeingltd.com | ridingthetraumatrain.co.uk
Connect with Beth: [email protected] | http://empoweredsurvivors.com
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What happens when the person coaching other people out of financial crisis is living through one of her own, in silence? Barbara Quan, an Accredited Financial Counselor, built a mortgage career that collapsed alongside the 2008 real estate crash and later filed for bankruptcy, all while almost no one around her knew. She and Beth discovered they're doing the same work in two different rooms: Barbara reads survival patterns in how people manage money; Beth reads the same patterns in leadership behavior.
This conversation traces that shape through the collapse, the bankruptcy, and what Beth calls hope building on the other side, inside The HEAL Framework™, whatever the pattern underneath it turns out to be. You, too, can heal.
Chapters:
00:00 — Cold Open
00:58 — Welcome to the Leadership Series and Meet Barbara
02:16 — What Financial Coaching Actually Looks Like
05:57 — Why Money Is a Taboo Subject
11:17 — The Overspending Client Who Couldn't Escape His Past
15:25 — The Mortgage Industry Before the Crash
20:32 — The Crash, the Layoffs, and the Leap Into Coaching
25:06 — Learning About Bankruptcy, and the Shame That Came With It
32:27 — Happy-Go-Lucky at Work, Falling Apart at Home
49:43 — Hope Building, the HEAL Framework, and Where to Find Barbara
Connect with Barbara Quan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/barbaraquan/ | http://financewithbarbara.com
Through The HEAL Framework™ — to Hope, Evolve, And, Love, each as an action — Beth helps leaders, high-performers, and organizations understand that the survival patterns running leadership styles can be recognized, examined, and changed.
Connect with Beth: [email protected] | http://empoweredsurvivors.com | Substack: @bethjoneshealingmentor
Hans Andreas Weygoldt spent fifteen years inside his family’s business, technically in charge of a hundred-and-fifty-person team, and almost silent in every meeting he ran. This conversation goes beneath the sobriety story Hans has told elsewhere and into the imposter pattern that shaped him as a leader — two sentences from his childhood, the substances that numbed it, and the breathwork session that changed everything.
Beth and Hans trace the arc from an ayahuasca ceremony in Peru through his first breathwork experience, ten years of sobriety, and what it looks like now when he leads with love instead of fear. You, too, can heal.
Chapters:
00:00 Cold Open
00:19 Welcome and Introduction
00:52 Fifteen Years, One Hundred Fifty People, Mostly Silent
05:29 Two Sentences From Childhood
10:45 The Coping Mechanism No One at Work Ever Saw
12:16 Naming the Imposter Pattern
18:57 An Accident, a Prescription, and a Dangerous Realization
22:40 Ayahuasca in Peru
25:02 The First Breathwork Session
32:32 Ten Years Sober, Leading With Love Today
Connect with Hans: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hans-andreas-weygoldt-151777356/ | https://www.facebook.com/hans.whygold
Through Leader Rewired™ — a leadership performance transformation methodology — Beth helps leaders, high-performers, and organizations understand that the survival patterns running leadership styles can be recognized, examined, and changed. If you have ever sat in a room, technically in charge, and said nothing because some old voice told you your opinion didn’t matter, this episode is for you.
Connect with Beth: [email protected] | empoweredsurvivors.com | Substack: @bethjoneshealingmentor
On today’s episode, I sit down with Renee Jackson-Smith, a leadership strategist who spent thirty years being the person everyone could hand anything to. She rose to Senior Talent and Performance Manager, walked away from her career twice, and built a practice around a question most leaders never stop to ask: is this confidence, or is this performance?
We talk about the twenty years she spent carrying her mother’s death unprocessed, the single question from her pastor that cracked it open, the survival pattern Validation Through Achievement, and what it looks like now when she leads from grounded presence instead of proof.
Chapters:
00:00 Cold Open
00:33 Intro
01:07 Meet Renee Jackson-Smith
05:18 Losing Her Mom at Twenty-One
09:10 The Pastor Who Saw Through Her
19:09 Performing for Mastery vs. Performing for Approval
25:18 The Credential-Collecting Pattern
28:31 The Vacation That Changed Everything
39:11 The Work She Does Today
44:44 Stop Performing, Start Leading
Connect with Renee Jackson-Smith: linkedin.com/in/reneejacksonsmith | soar2win.com
Beth helps leaders, high-performers, and organisations understand that the survival patterns running leadership styles can be recognised, examined, and changed. Through my leadership performance transformation methodology, Leader Rewired™, I help leaders recognize that the survival patterns running their leadership style can be named, examined, and changed. You, too, can heal. And when you do you lead, live, and love better.
Connect with Beth: [email protected] | http://empoweredsurvivors.com | Substack: @bethjoneshealingmentor
Mike Orlowski spent years leading in a high-stress logistics and talent acquisition career while quietly heading toward a breaking point he told almost no one about. He's now the host of the Mojo, Motivation & Mental Health podcast and founder of MOJO Worldwide — but before any of that, he was standing six feet from ending his life, a little over a year after losing his mother, worn down by burnout he'd never named out loud.
In this conversation, Mike and Beth trace the survival patterns underneath that moment (imposter syndrome, a punishing inner critic, and a codependent habit of letting other people's words decide his mood) and what changed once he stopped outsourcing his happiness. They talk about walking, gratitude, why hosting a podcast about other people's pain became part of his own healing, and what he'd say to someone sitting at their own six-foot mark today.
Chapters:
00:01 — Introduction & Guest Welcome
00:49 — Life in Logistics, Talent Acquisition, and the Mission Behind Mojo
02:39 — Holding Space for Other People's Pain
04:41 — Setting the Stage: Bullying, Anxiety, and Years of Locking It Away
06:07 — The Breaking Point
08:58 — Imposter Syndrome and the Inner Critic
17:18 — The Turn
20:04 — Walking, Gratitude, and Rebuilding One Percent at a Time
29:15 — Codependency and Choosing His Own Happiness
33:43 — Leading and Loving Differently Now, and What He'd Say at the Six-Foot Mark
Connect with Mike Orlowski:
Michael Orlowski | LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikeorlowski/
MOJO Worldwide | Personal Transformation, Motivation & Mental Wellness: https://www.mojomotivates.com/
Connect with Beth:
mailto:[email protected] | empoweredsurvivors.com
What does it cost a team when their most composed leader is the one carrying the most? Jeff Johnston built a wealth management practice that eventually managed hundreds of millions of dollars in client assets and looked, from the outside, like the complete version of success. For over thirty years, he was also a daily drinker, present enough at work to never raise a flag and absent enough at home that he now names it directly: he was not present in his son's life.
This conversation goes past the loss Jeff has spoken about publicly and into the leadership behavior underneath it: the overfunctioning that let a real crisis run for decades in plain sight, the moment that performance broke, and what Jeff leads differently now. You, too, can heal.
Chapters:
00:00 Cold Open
00:45 Welcome and Introduction
02:00 Two Lives, Split at Fifty
09:45 Building an $800 Million Practice
12:10 The Call About Seth
16:50 “I Was a Narcissist, I Was Arrogant, I Wasn’t Present”
18:45 Thirty-Six Years of High-Functioning Alcoholism
22:50 Losing Prudence and Three Days in the Closet
39:56 Purpose Becomes Passion When It Gets Personal
53:25 Shattering the Self-Built Prison
1:02:35 Building Brightn and Leading Differently
Connect with Jeff Johnston: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffrey-a-johnston/ | brightn.app | http://livingundeterred.org
Connect with Beth: [email protected] | http://empoweredsurvivors.com | Substack: @bethjoneshealingmentor
Jessica Hammock is the Director of Behavioral and Mental Health for one of the largest charter school networks in Texas, responsible for crisis response and mental health training across 100 campuses and 25,000 students. When a death on campus happens, she is the person every principal calls. From the outside: completely calm. From the inside, her words: "my little heart is fluttering away like little legs underneath the pond."
In this conversation, Jessica and Beth go somewhere most leadership conversations don't reach. Jessica describes what it looks like to lead at scale while managing her own nervous system beneath the surface — the go mode, the over-functioning, and the moment she recognized that owning the weight of everybody else's outcomes was never hers to carry.
What survival mode leadership looks like when you're the designated calm one. Why "leave your problems at the door" is physiologically impossible. The performance-based identity that showed up long before the leadership title did. And what it looks like to lead from giftedness instead of a false sense of responsibility.
Chapters:
00:00 — Cold open: the duck on the pond
00:19 — Leadership series intro
02:08 — Who Jessica is today
09:39 — What happens when the crisis call comes in
13:38 — “You’re not getting in the car” — when the boss says no
18:53 — “Leave your problems at the door is a lie”
21:05 — Owning what was never mine to own
26:14 — Resourcing vs. armor — where Jessica is today
32:33 — What healing taught her about leadership
38:23 — Sitting across from younger Jessica
40:59 — Closing / call to action
Connect with Jessica Hammock: vibrantvoice.life | https://www.linkedin.com/in/vibrantvoice/
Connect with Beth: [email protected] | http://empoweredsurvivors.com | Substack: @bethjoneshealingmentor
What happens when the fear of losing a paycheck teaches you to swallow the truth — and what does that same fear look like once you're the one running the room?
My guest is Kathy Love: two-time TEDx speaker, self-care coach, author, and podcast host, whose ex-husband was convicted of white-collar crime and sentenced to federal prison. We go back to where the co-dependency pattern started, long before the FBI ever showed up at her house, and bring it forward into how she leads and works today.
Through The HEAL Framework™ — Hope, Evolve, And Love — Beth helps leaders recognize the survival patterns shaping how they lead. You, too, can heal.
Chapters
00:00 Cold Open & Intro
07:44 Meet Kathy Love: From Federal Investigation to Self-Care Coach
16:53 Naming the Pattern: “An Extreme People Pleaser”
17:41 Falling in Love at 23 and Missing the Red Flags
34:55 The Slow Unraveling: “You Just Don't Understand”
38:39 The Card from the FBI
45:23 Coming Home to an Unfamiliar Calm
49:15 The Root Cause: A Fear of Being Alone
1:00:16 Changing Her Name, Rebuilding Herself
1:05:38 What Changed at Work After the Healing
1:07:40 Debate, Not Argument: Truth as a Leadership Tool
1:10:04 Close
Connect with Kathy Love:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathylove111/
https://www.myselfcareshit.com/
Through The HEAL Framework™ — to Hope, Evolve, And Love, each as an action — Beth helps leaders, high-performers, and organizations understand that the survival patterns running leadership styles can be recognized, examined, and changed.
Connect with Beth:
[email protected] | http://empoweredsurvivors.com | Substack: @bethjoneshealingmentor
What happens when the skill that makes you an exceptional leader is the same skill that’s quietly exhausting you? Kristan Gainey Keene spent thirty years in enterprise technology building programs that helped people feel seen, heard, and included. What she didn’t know was that every one of those skills was forged in an unsafe childhood. In this conversation, Kristan and Beth go to the place most leadership interviews never reach: the personal history underneath the professional expertise.
Chapters:
00:00 Cold open
00:28 Intro
00:59 Meet Kristan Gainey Keene
01:51 Who Kristan is today
03:12 Why storytelling is an identity
04:24 The AAA Forum: storytelling as belonging
09:00 “Bring a Man” — including men in the conversation
11:58 Creating safe spaces during hard times
13:26 Work as the safe place
14:20 Where the warmth comes from
15:40 “I thought they were my feelings”
20:38 The healing journey begins
25:04 Leadership before healing
26:31 Beyond belonging — acceptance
28:23 Curiosity over resistance
35:03 The story that changed a C-suite leader
37:29 What would you say to her?
41:00 Connection as the opposite of addiction
Connect with Kristan Gainey Keene: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristangaineykeene/
Through The HEAL Framework™ — to Hope, Evolve, And Love, each as an action — Beth helps leaders, high-performers, and organisations understand that the survival patterns running their leadership styles can be recognised, examined, and changed.
You, too, can heal.
Connect with Beth:
Website: https://empoweredsurvivors.com
Substack | LinkedIn: @BethJonesHEALingMentor
Email: [email protected]
Book: Becoming an Empowered Survivor (Amazon)
#LeadershipPerformance #SurvivalModeLeadership #TraumaInformedLeadership #LeadershipDevelopment #EmotionalIntelligence
Laura Roach is a partner at McCathern and one of the most recognized family law mediators in Texas. In this conversation, Laura shares what her breakdown taught her about leadership, why she tells her young attorneys to go home to their families, and the business case for doing your own work: better talent, stronger teams, and more revenue.
Beth explores how Laura’s story connects to tone at the top—the leadership behavior that determines whether people feel safe to be human at work.
Chapters:
0:00 Cold Open
0:13 Intro
0:50 Who is Laura Roach?
4:05 The protector and the blunt truth-teller
8:20 Laura’s breakdown and the road to recovery
12:45 What vulnerability changed about her leadership
14:00 Why her team isn’t afraid to bring her problems
22:45 Fighting ego to get help
26:00 The people you lose and the people you find
29:40 “Go home to your babies” — human-first leadership in practice
32:40 Work-life balance vs. life-work integration
36:15 The ROI of recovery: revenue, talent, and the cycle that repeats
38:30 Close
Connect with Laura Roach: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-roach-09563467/ | [email protected]
Through The HEAL Framework™ — to Hope, Evolve, And Love, each as an action — Beth helps leaders, high-performers, and organizations understand that the survival patterns running leadership styles can be recognized, examined, and changed.
Connect with Beth: [email protected] | http://empoweredsurvivors.com | Substack: @bethjoneshealingmentor
From the publisher's feed
Welcome to Let’s HEAL! with Beth Jones. I’m Beth, your leadership performance strategist and the HEALing Mentor. We’re still talking about healing our survival patterns, but this show is taking the…
The business world. Because we desperately need conversations about leadership performance and healing the survival patterns that keep us from achieving real success.
Our survival patterns don’t stay in our past. They follow us to work. They shape our leadership behavior and how we treat the people we are responsible for. And most of us have absolutely no idea it’s happening. It shows up as burnout despite success. As trauma responses in leadership that nobody has named yet. Decision-making under pressure that quietly erodes trust in leadership. Emptiness high achievers feel when everything looks right on the outside, but something still isn’t working inside. The higher the performance, the easier it is to look away from your wounds.
That is the conversation this show is stepping into now — and we are ready for it. The first fifty episodes of this show, raw, honest conversations with survivors, gifted healers, and people who have walked through the fire, built the foundation. Now we are taking everything we learned about healing into the room where it is needed most and asking the hard questions.
What happens when survival patterns run the show at work? How does healing our survival patterns make us more effective, more present, and more powerful as leaders? What does it look like to be forced into healing while you are still in the middle of your career? These are the conversations we’re having now. These are the conversations leaders need — and that organizations are not having.
I know one thing for sure: you, too, can heal. And when you do, you lead differently. Your team performs differently. Your decisions come from a different place. You love differently. You show up differently. This is how we build leadership effectiveness that lasts — and a life and legacy to match.
Come on, everybody. Let’s HEAL!