On this episode of Levels to This, Sheryl Swoopes and Terrika Foster-Brasby welcome back their first repeat guest—journalist, author, and WNBA OG supporter Jemele Hill. The trio kicks things off with hilarious homeowner horror stories (ever had to buy a fake owl to scare off invading critters?) before diving into the state of the WNBA and the controversy surrounding Commissioner Cathy Engelbert. Jemele brings her journalist’s insight and historical perspective, reflecting on what’s changed—and what hasn’t—since she covered Sheryl’s time in the league. Together, they unpack player power, the upcoming CBA negotiations, and why respect, not gratitude, is the real battle for women’s sports today.

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