In this episode of Leaders in Living Rooms, Sean Morgan sits down with Carey Nieuwhof to unpack one of the most significant moments facing the Church today: a rising Gen Z openness to faith paired with a looming leadership and succession crisis. Drawing from recent data, lived experience, and decades of leadership development, Carey challenges older generations to release authority sooner, create real opportunities for younger leaders, and rethink how leadership is developed—not just trained. The conversation also tackles under-discussed trends, including the quiet disengagement of women from church life, the creator economy’s impact on ministry, and what it truly means to build organizations that grow beyond their founders.

Welcome to Episode 152 of the Leaders in Living Rooms Podcast with Sean Morgan.

EPISODE LINKS

The Art of Leadership Academy

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If you’re a leader approaching a succession or transition, or maybe you’re a few years in and beginning to see how complex transitions leadership is… go to The Art of Pastoral Succession and check out my course in partnership with Carey Nieuwhof. 

Are you in Transition or have one on the horizon? Check out our cohorts and get connected with us at: https://theascentleader.org/cohorts/ 

WHO IS CAREY NIEUWHOF?

Carey Nieuwhof is a best-selling author, speaker, pastor, former attorney, and podcaster whose work has equipped millions of leaders worldwide. He hosts The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast, with over 38 million downloads, and is the founder of The Art of Leadership Academy, where thousands of leaders grow every month. Across platforms, Carey’s content reaches more than 3 million leaders monthly, and his books, including At Your Best and Didn’t See It Coming, offer practical strategies for growth and resilience.

SPONSORS & PARTNERS

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