Are you willing to trust God with your future, even when it feels like the scariest step of all?

In this episode, Bill and Scott explore what it truly means to trust Christ with your future and why this step of maturity can feel so unsettling. They reveal how freedom grows out of believing who God says you are and learning to trust both God and the new heart He has given you. This conversation will challenge you to move from control, fear, and obligation into trust, freedom, and shared growth.

Topics Bill Thrall and Scott Boyd discuss in this episode:

(00:06) The three phases of spiritual maturity.

(01:52) Bill shares a personal story from his marriage that illustrates love meeting needs.

(03:17) How trust allows influence in relationships without manipulation or control.

(04:45) Why trust is required before truth can be heard without feeling like criticism.

(06:25) Connecting workplace leadership to relational trust.

(07:30) Understanding Christ-centered living as loving others the way Christ loved.

(09:01) Why growth in relationships must be processed together rather than fixing one person independently.

(12:31) Living in freedom is being rooted in who God says you are, not what you ought to do.

(14:52) The importance of trusting the new heart given through Christ instead of viewing oneself as deceitful.

(18:11) Why trusting God is foundational before pursuing His purposes for your life.

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* Cultivate trust that strengthens culture.

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How might a renewed understanding of trust and authenticity elevate your leadership and transform those you lead?

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Attend the Living Influence Leadership conferences and cohorts (also known as peer groups), and you’ll:

* Lead from identity.

* Cultivate trust that strengthens culture.

* Gain clarity that fuels lasting influence.

* Integrate who you are, and your God-given purpose, with how you lead.

Join Bill Thrall, Scott Boyd, and Waldemar Kohl for a transformative experience helping Christian executives lead from trust, authenticity, and the freedom of their God-given significance.

Bill Thrall: For more than 40 years, Bill has helped senior executives around the world lead from identity, authenticity, and grace.

Scott Boyd: Over the past 29 years, Scott has built a thriving business by shaping a culture of trust, grace, and empowered leadership.

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How does trusting God with yourself reveal spiritual maturity?

This episode explores what it truly means to become a Christ-centered believer through the process of spiritual maturity. Bill and Scott unpack how trust in God leads to humility, healing, and a willingness to take risks for the sake of others. As believers grow, their lives increasingly reflect joy, purpose, and a deep concern for the flourishing of those around them.

Topics Bill Thrall and Scott Boyd discuss in this episode:

(00:05) The progression from being self-focused to becoming Christ-centered.

(01:24) The shift from receiving love to extending love toward others.

(01:59) Why maturity cannot be forced but must begin with personal trust in God.

(03:42) Trust is the central operating principle in all relationships.

(05:11) Fear of trusting God with the future.

(08:33) Purpose-centered living as a hallmark of Christ-centered maturity.

(10:12) Taking risks for the benefit of others as evidence of deep spiritual growth.

(15:12) Healing and joy as signs that trust and maturity are taking root.

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What happens when personal growth shifts attention away from yourself and toward others?

In this episode, Bill and Scott explore the movement from a self-focused faith into an others-centered life marked by healing, trust, and love. They unpack how maturity is not achieved by striving, but by learning to receive love and allowing that love to overflow toward others. As believers experience healing, they become freer to care, lead, and influence without being consumed by themselves.

Topics Bill Thrall and Scott Boyd discuss in this episode:

(02:00) How personal crisis opened Scott’s life to grace, vulnerability, and deeper growth.

(04:03) The difference between trusting with sin and trusting with one’s whole person.

(06:05) How experiencing grace leads to feeling loved and then loving others.

(07:15) Scott recounts how confession and affirmation became a turning point toward healing.

(08:59) How letting oneself be loved is essential to experiencing real healing.

(10:28) Immature love compared to mature love.

(14:44) Healing as the evidence of maturity and freedom to love others.

(18:28) Bill describes maturity as awareness of influence and care for how one affects others.

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How can we create a place where ourselves and our loved ones hide nothing?

In this episode, Bill and Scott examine why shame teaches people to hide and how even Christian environments can unintentionally reinforce that fear. They also explore what it takes to create truly safe spaces where people can be known, trusted, and loved without pressure to perform or fix themselves. At the heart of the conversation is the hope that emerges when trust replaces hiding and maturity begins through relationship rather than self-effort.

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How does striving to perform for God interfere with the growth God intends for you?

In this episode, Bill and Scott explore what it truly means to mature, distinguishing growth from performance-based sanctification. They explain why maturity is not about earning life but about growing into what is already given. The conversation highlights how love, safety, and honesty create the environment where genuine growth can happen.

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Join Bill Thrall, Scott Boyd, and Waldemar Kohl for a transformative experience helping Christian executives lead from trust, authenticity, and the freedom of their God-given significance.

In this seminar, which will be held on March 11-13 in Scottsdale, Arizona, you’ll discover the power of authentic leadership. You’ll walk away with a renewed understanding of how trust and authenticity elevate your leadership and transform those you lead. Learn more at https://www.livinginfluenceleadership.com/services#section-1762312239710

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How do we transition from living in our flesh to becoming alive in the Holy Spirit?

In this episode, Bill and Scott explore what it means to move from living in the flesh to becoming alive in the Holy Spirit. Through Romans 7 and 8, they reveal why sin management and self-effort leave people stuck and discouraged. The conversation points to trust in the Spirit as the foundation for real hope, freedom, and transformation.

Topics Bill Thrall and Scott Boyd discuss in this episode:

(02:19) How Romans 7 describes the ongoing reality of the Christian life.

(03:03) The power of sin in the flesh as something humans were never created to manage.

(05:00) Why self-effort and discipline can’t overcome the power of the flesh.

(07:35) How people become desperate after exhausting themselves trying to fix themselves.

(08:37) How working on sin will never resolve sin.

(10:30) Why believing Christ is alive within changes how issues are addressed.

(11:22) How grace produces hope.

(17:24) How trusting the Holy Spirit allows Him to put the deeds of the flesh to death.

(19:08) Maturity as defined by God.

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Is it possible to live in a state of being forgiven? Can you actually live in that reality?

This episode explores the difference between knowing you are forgiven and actually living forgiven in daily life. Bill and Scott discuss how shame shapes identity and how God provides two gifts—repentance and forgiveness—to cleanse the ongoing effects of sin. Together they show how this leads to freedom with God, others, and even yourself.

Topics Bill Thrall and Scott Boyd discuss in this episode: 

(01:09) How being affected by sin becomes the foundation for how people see themselves, God, and others.

(02:38) Wrestling with whether forgiveness is only granted when someone explicitly asks for it.

(04:08) How the blood of Jesus cleanses all sin.

(07:07) The false teaching that Christians will have their sins read aloud in heaven.

(09:19) Bill recounts helping a woman process childhood trauma and finally feel clean and free.

(11:20) How being cleansed broke the bondage of Bill’s shame.

(13:25) How Scott’s father’s alcoholism shaped harshness toward himself.

(16:30) How trusting God’s cleansing allows you to live open, transformed lives with others.

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How might your life change if you truly believed you were no longer a slave to sin?

In this episode, Bill and Scott explore how faith—given to us when we were “dead in sin”—forms the foundation for a new identity in Christ. The conversation reframes spiritual growth from striving to sin less into trusting the truth of who God has already made us to be.

Topics Bill Thrall and Scott Boyd discuss in this episode:

(00:41) How Christians often miss the obvious truth that faith is a gift.

(02:39) The cycle of striving to sin less and hiding failures, and why it traps believers in defeat.

(03:53) How Jesus not only died for sins but took believers into His death to give them new life.

(05:13) Bill shares the short prayer that helped him believe he truly had the ability to serve righteousness.

(06:20) Scott and Bill discuss the shift from “freedom from sin” to “freedom to live into God’s purposes.”

(07:08) Bill begins unpacking 1 John 3 and what it means to be called children of God with the DNA of Jesus.

(09:23) Bill explains why believers are righteous now, even though they are not yet fully mature.

(12:41) Bill warns that focusing only on avoiding sin without embracing new identity leads to immaturity and defeat.

(17:55) Bill prays for God to teach believers to trust their ability to love, and Scott shares how grief awakened his desire for shared love and community.

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