A Drink With a Friend

Loving Things Unironically


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Seth is off doing lawyer-y things this week, so Tsh talks to friend Joy Clarkson about, essentially, Wendell Berry’s beloved quip, “Be joyful though you have considered all the facts.” Why is it not only a good idea to pursue happiness — it’s necessary? And perhaps counter-cultural to our doomscroll-obsessed modern ways? Joy and Tsh talk about where real happiness is found, what it means to unironically enjoy what we love, and why doing so even makes us better neighbors.


  • Seth: NewsletterWebsite

  • Tsh: NewsletterWebsite

  • Pick up a round of drinks & help keep the show going

  • Come to Italy with us!

  • Joy Clarkson and her new book, Aggressively Happy

  • Joy on Twitter and Instagram

  • The Artist’s Way, by Julia Cameron

  • Bitter & Sweet, Tsh’s new book for Lent



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