Machine Learning Street Talk (MLST)

Dr. Patrick Lewis, who coined the term RAG (Retrieval Augmented Generation) and now works at Cohere, discusses the evolution of language models, RAG systems, and challenges in AI evaluation.

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Key topics covered:

- Origins and evolution of Retrieval Augmented Generation (RAG)

- Challenges in evaluating RAG systems and language models

- Human-AI collaboration in research and knowledge work

- Word embeddings and the progression to modern language models

- Dense vs sparse retrieval methods in information retrieval

The discussion also explored broader implications and applications:

- Balancing faithfulness and fluency in RAG systems

- User interface design for AI-augmented research tools

- The journey from chemistry to AI research

- Challenges in enterprise search compared to web search

- The importance of data quality in training AI models

Patrick Lewis: https://www.patricklewis.io/

Cohere Command Models, check them out - they are amazing for RAG!

https://cohere.com/command

TOC

00:00:00 1. Intro to RAG

00:05:30 2. RAG Evaluation: Poll framework & model performance

00:12:55 3. Data Quality: Cleanliness vs scale in AI training

00:15:13 4. Human-AI Collaboration: Research agents & UI design

00:22:57 5. RAG Origins: Open-domain QA to generative models

00:30:18 6. RAG Challenges: Info retrieval, tool use, faithfulness

00:42:01 7. Dense vs Sparse Retrieval: Techniques & trade-offs

00:47:02 8. RAG Applications: Grounding, attribution, hallucination prevention

00:54:04 9. UI for RAG: Human-computer interaction & model optimization

00:59:01 10. Word Embeddings: Word2Vec, GloVe, and semantic spaces

01:06:43 11. Language Model Evolution: BERT, GPT, and beyond

01:11:38 12. AI & Human Cognition: Sequential processing & chain-of-thought

Refs:

1. Retrieval Augmented Generation (RAG) paper / Patrick Lewis et al. [00:27:45]

https://arxiv.org/abs/2005.11401

2. LAMA (LAnguage Model Analysis) probe / Petroni et al. [00:26:35]

https://arxiv.org/abs/1909.01066

3. KILT (Knowledge Intensive Language Tasks) benchmark / Petroni et al. [00:27:05]

https://arxiv.org/abs/2009.02252

4. Word2Vec algorithm / Tomas Mikolov et al. [01:00:25]

https://arxiv.org/abs/1301.3781

5. GloVe (Global Vectors for Word Representation) / Pennington et al. [01:04:35]

https://nlp.stanford.edu/projects/glove/

6. BERT (Bidirectional Encoder Representations from Transformers) / Devlin et al. [01:08:00]

https://arxiv.org/abs/1810.04805

7. 'The Language Game' book / Nick Chater and Morten H. Christiansen [01:11:40]

https://amzn.to/4grEUpG

Disclaimer: This is the sixth video from our Cohere partnership. We were not told what to say in the interview. Filmed in Seattle in June 2024.

Ashley Edwards, who was working at DeepMind when she co-authored the Genie paper and is now at Runway, covered several key aspects of the Genie AI system and its applications in video generation, robotics, and game creation.

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Genie's approach to learning interactive environments, balancing compression and fidelity.

The use of latent action models and VQE models for video processing and tokenization.

Challenges in maintaining action consistency across frames and integrating text-to-image models.

Evaluation metrics for AI-generated content, such as FID and PS&R diff metrics.

The discussion also explored broader implications and applications:

The potential impact of AI video generation on content creation jobs.

Applications of Genie in game generation and robotics.

The use of foundation models in robotics and the differences between internet video data and specialized robotics data.

Challenges in mapping AI-generated actions to real-world robotic actions.

Ashley Edwards: https://ashedwards.github.io/

TOC (*) are best bits

00:00:00 1. Intro to Genie & Brave Search API: Trade-offs & limitations *

00:02:26 2. Genie's Architecture: Latent action, VQE, video processing *

00:05:06 3. Genie's Constraints: Frame consistency & image model integration

00:07:26 4. Evaluation: FID, PS&R diff metrics & latent induction methods

00:09:44 5. AI Video Gen: Content creation impact, depth & parallax effects

00:11:39 6. Model Scaling: Training data impact & computational trade-offs

00:13:50 7. Game & Robotics Apps: Gamification & action mapping challenges *

00:16:16 8. Robotics Foundation Models: Action space & data considerations *

00:19:18 9. Mask-GPT & Video Frames: Real-time optimization, RL from videos

00:20:34 10. Research Challenges: AI value, efficiency vs. quality, safety

00:24:20 11. Future Dev: Efficiency improvements & fine-tuning strategies

Refs:

1. Genie (learning interactive environments from videos) / Ashley and DM collegues [00:01]

https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.15391

2. VQ-VAE (Vector Quantized Variational Autoencoder) / Aaron van den Oord, Oriol Vinyals, Koray Kavukcuoglu [02:43]

https://arxiv.org/abs/1711.00937

3. FID (Fréchet Inception Distance) metric / Martin Heusel et al. [07:37]

https://arxiv.org/abs/1706.08500

4. PS&R (Precision and Recall) metric / Mehdi S. M. Sajjadi et al. [08:02]

https://arxiv.org/abs/1806.00035

5. Vision Transformer (ViT) architecture / Alexey Dosovitskiy et al. [12:14]

https://arxiv.org/abs/2010.11929

6. Genie (robotics foundation models) / Google DeepMind [17:34]

https://deepmind.google/research/publications/60474/

7. Chelsea Finn's lab work on robotics datasets / Chelsea Finn [17:38]

https://ai.stanford.edu/~cbfinn/

8. Imitation from observation in reinforcement learning / YuXuan Liu [20:58]

https://arxiv.org/abs/1707.03374

9. Waymo's autonomous driving technology / Waymo [22:38]

https://waymo.com/

10. Gen3 model release by Runway / Runway [23:48]

https://runwayml.com/

11. Classifier-free guidance technique / Jonathan Ho and Tim Salimans [24:43]

https://arxiv.org/abs/2207.12598

Saurabh Baji discusses Cohere's approach to developing and deploying large language models (LLMs) for enterprise use.

* Cohere focuses on pragmatic, efficient models tailored for business applications rather than pursuing the largest possible models.

* They offer flexible deployment options, from cloud services to on-premises installations, to meet diverse enterprise needs.

* Retrieval-augmented generation (RAG) is highlighted as a critical capability, allowing models to leverage enterprise data securely.

* Cohere emphasizes model customization, fine-tuning, and tools like reranking to optimize performance for specific use cases.

* The company has seen significant growth, transitioning from developer-focused to enterprise-oriented services.

* Major customers like Oracle, Fujitsu, and TD Bank are using Cohere's models across various applications, from HR to finance.

* Baji predicts a surge in enterprise AI adoption over the next 12-18 months as more companies move from experimentation to production.

* He emphasizes the importance of trust, security, and verifiability in enterprise AI applications.

The interview provides insights into Cohere's strategy, technology, and vision for the future of enterprise AI adoption.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/saurabhbaji/

https://x.com/sbaji

https://cohere.com/

https://cohere.com/business

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TOC (*) are best bits

00:00:00 1. Introduction and Background

00:04:24 2. Cloud Infrastructure and LLM Optimization

00:06:43 2.1 Model deployment and fine-tuning strategies *

00:09:37 3. Enterprise AI Deployment Strategies

00:11:10 3.1 Retrieval-augmented generation in enterprise environments *

00:13:40 3.2 Standardization vs. customization in cloud services *

00:18:20 4. AI Model Evaluation and Deployment

00:18:20 4.1 Comprehensive evaluation frameworks *

00:21:20 4.2 Key components of AI model stacks *

00:25:50 5. Retrieval Augmented Generation (RAG) in Enterprise

00:32:10 5.1 Pragmatic approach to RAG implementation *

00:33:45 6. AI Agents and Tool Integration

00:33:45 6.1 Leveraging tools for AI insights *

00:35:30 6.2 Agent-based AI systems and diagnostics *

00:42:55 7. AI Transparency and Reasoning Capabilities

00:49:10 8. AI Model Training and Customization

00:57:10 9. Enterprise AI Model Management

01:02:10 9.1 Managing AI model versions for enterprise customers *

01:04:30 9.2 Future of language model programming *

01:06:10 10. AI-Driven Software Development

01:06:10 10.1 AI bridging human expression and task achievement *

01:08:00 10.2 AI-driven virtual app fabrics in enterprise *

01:13:33 11. Future of AI and Enterprise Applications

01:21:55 12. Cohere's Customers and Use Cases

01:21:55 12.1 Cohere's growth and enterprise partnerships *

01:27:14 12.2 Diverse customers using generative AI *

01:27:50 12.3 Industry adaptation to generative AI *

01:29:00 13. Technical Advantages of Cohere Models

01:29:00 13.1 Handling large context windows *

01:29:40 13.2 Low latency impact on developer productivity *

Disclaimer: This is the fifth video from our Cohere partnership. We were not told what to say in the interview, and didn't edit anything out from the interview. Filmed in Seattle in Aug 2024.

David Hanson, CEO of Hanson Robotics and creator of the humanoid robot Sofia, explores the intersection of artificial intelligence, ethics, and human potential. In this thought-provoking interview, Hanson discusses his vision for developing AI systems that embody the best aspects of humanity while pushing beyond our current limitations, aiming to achieve what he calls "super wisdom."

YT version: https://youtu.be/LFCIEhlsozU

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The interview with David Hanson covers:

The importance of incorporating biological drives and compassion into AI systems

Hanson's concept of "existential pattern ethics" as a basis for AI morality

The potential for AI to enhance human intelligence and wisdom

Challenges in developing artificial general intelligence (AGI)

The need to democratize AI technologies globally

Potential future advancements in human-AI integration and their societal impacts

Concerns about technological augmentation exacerbating inequality

The role of ethics in guiding AI development and deployment

Hanson advocates for creating AI systems that embody the best aspects of humanity while surpassing current human limitations, aiming for "super wisdom" rather than just artificial super intelligence.

David Hanson:

https://www.hansonrobotics.com/david-hanson/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u1O954cMmE

TOC

1. Introduction and Background [00:00:00]

1.1. David Hanson's interdisciplinary background [0:01:49]

1.2. Introduction to Sofia, the realistic robot [0:03:27]

2. Human Cognition and AI [0:03:50]

2.1. Importance of social interaction in cognition [0:03:50]

2.2. Compassion as distinguishing factor [0:05:55]

2.3. AI augmenting human intelligence [0:09:54]

3. Developing Human-like AI [0:13:17]

3.1. Incorporating biological drives in AI [0:13:17]

3.2. Creating AI with agency [0:20:34]

3.3. Implementing flexible desires in AI [0:23:23]

4. Ethics and Morality in AI [0:27:53]

4.1. Enhancing humanity through AI [0:27:53]

4.2. Existential pattern ethics [0:30:14]

4.3. Expanding morality beyond restrictions [0:35:35]

5. Societal Impact of AI [0:38:07]

5.1. AI adoption and integration [0:38:07]

5.2. Democratizing AI technologies [0:38:32]

5.3. Human-AI integration and identity [0:43:37]

6. Future Considerations [0:50:03]

6.1. Technological augmentation and inequality [0:50:03]

6.2. Emerging technologies for mental health [0:50:32]

6.3. Corporate ethics in AI development [0:52:26]

This was filmed at AGI-24

David Spivak, a mathematician known for his work in category theory, discusses a wide range of topics related to intelligence, creativity, and the nature of knowledge. He explains category theory in simple terms and explores how it relates to understanding complex systems and relationships.

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We discuss abstract concepts like collective intelligence, the importance of embodiment in understanding the world, and how we acquire and process knowledge. Spivak shares his thoughts on creativity, discussing where it comes from and how it might be modeled mathematically.

A significant portion of the discussion focuses on the impact of artificial intelligence on human thinking and its potential role in the evolution of intelligence. Spivak also touches on the importance of language, particularly written language, in transmitting knowledge and shaping our understanding of the world.

David Spivak

http://www.dspivak.net/

TOC:

00:00:00 Introduction to category theory and functors

00:04:40 Collective intelligence and sense-making

00:09:54 Embodiment and physical concepts in knowledge acquisition

00:16:23 Creativity, open-endedness, and AI's impact on thinking

00:25:46 Modeling creativity and the evolution of intelligence

00:36:04 Evolution, optimization, and the significance of AI

00:44:14 Written language and its impact on knowledge transmission

REFS:

Mike Levin's work

https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=luouyakAAAAJ&hl=en

Eric Smith's videos on complexity and early life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpJZw-68QyE

Richard Dawkins' book "The Selfish Gene"

https://amzn.to/3X73X8w

Carl Sagan's statement about the cosmos knowing itself

https://amzn.to/3XhPruK

Herbert Simon's concept of "satisficing"

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/bounded-rationality/

DeepMind paper on open-ended systems

https://arxiv.org/abs/2406.04268

Karl Friston's work on active inference

https://direct.mit.edu/books/oa-monograph/5299/Active-InferenceThe-Free-Energy-Principle-in-Mind

MIT category theory lectures by David Spivak (available on the Topos Institute channel)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UusLtx9fIjs

Jürgen Schmidhuber, the father of generative AI shares his groundbreaking work in deep learning and artificial intelligence. In this exclusive interview, he discusses the history of AI, some of his contributions to the field, and his vision for the future of intelligent machines. Schmidhuber offers unique insights into the exponential growth of technology and the potential impact of AI on humanity and the universe.

YT version: https://youtu.be/DP454c1K_vQ

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TOC

00:00:00 Intro

00:03:38 Reasoning

00:13:09 Potential AI Breakthroughs Reducing Computation Needs

00:20:39 Memorization vs. Generalization in AI

00:25:19 Approach to the ARC Challenge

00:29:10 Perceptions of Chat GPT and AGI

00:58:45 Abstract Principles of Jurgen's Approach

01:04:17 Analogical Reasoning and Compression

01:05:48 Breakthroughs in 1991: the P, the G, and the T in ChatGPT and Generative AI

01:15:50 Use of LSTM in Language Models by Tech Giants

01:21:08 Neural Network Aspect Ratio Theory

01:26:53 Reinforcement Learning Without Explicit Teachers

Refs:

★ "Annotated History of Modern AI and Deep Learning" (2022 survey by Schmidhuber):

★ Chain Rule For Backward Credit Assignment (Leibniz, 1676)

★ First Neural Net / Linear Regression / Shallow Learning (Gauss & Legendre, circa 1800)

★ First 20th Century Pioneer of Practical AI (Quevedo, 1914)

★ First Recurrent NN (RNN) Architecture (Lenz, Ising, 1920-1925)

★ AI Theory: Fundamental Limitations of Computation and Computation-Based AI (Gödel, 1931-34)

★ Unpublished ideas about evolving RNNs (Turing, 1948)

★ Multilayer Feedforward NN Without Deep Learning (Rosenblatt, 1958)

★ First Published Learning RNNs (Amari and others, ~1972)

★ First Deep Learning (Ivakhnenko & Lapa, 1965)

★ Deep Learning by Stochastic Gradient Descent (Amari, 1967-68)

★ ReLUs (Fukushima, 1969)

★ Backpropagation (Linnainmaa, 1970); precursor (Kelley, 1960)

★ Backpropagation for NNs (Werbos, 1982)

★ First Deep Convolutional NN (Fukushima, 1979); later combined with Backprop (Waibel 1987, Zhang 1988).

★ Metalearning or Learning to Learn (Schmidhuber, 1987)

★ Generative Adversarial Networks / Artificial Curiosity / NN Online Planners (Schmidhuber, Feb 1990; see the G in Generative AI and ChatGPT)

★ NNs Learn to Generate Subgoals and Work on Command (Schmidhuber, April 1990)

★ NNs Learn to Program NNs: Unnormalized Linear Transformer (Schmidhuber, March 1991; see the T in ChatGPT)

★ Deep Learning by Self-Supervised Pre-Training. Distilling NNs (Schmidhuber, April 1991; see the P in ChatGPT)

★ Experiments with Pre-Training; Analysis of Vanishing/Exploding Gradients, Roots of Long Short-Term Memory / Highway Nets / ResNets (Hochreiter, June 1991, further developed 1999-2015 with other students of Schmidhuber)

★ LSTM journal paper (1997, most cited AI paper of the 20th century)

★ xLSTM (Hochreiter, 2024)

★ Reinforcement Learning Prompt Engineer for Abstract Reasoning and Planning (Schmidhuber 2015)

★ Mindstorms in Natural Language-Based Societies of Mind (2023 paper by Schmidhuber's team)

https://arxiv.org/abs/2305.17066

★ Bremermann's physical limit of computation (1982)

EXTERNAL LINKS

CogX 2018 - Professor Juergen Schmidhuber

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17shdT9-wuA

Discovering Neural Nets with Low Kolmogorov Complexity and High Generalization Capability (Neural Networks, 1997)

https://sferics.idsia.ch/pub/juergen/loconet.pdf

The paradox at the heart of mathematics: Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem - Marcus du Sautoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4pQbo5MQOs

(Refs truncated, full version on YT VD)

Professor Pedro Domingos, is an AI researcher and professor of computer science. He expresses skepticism about current AI regulation efforts and argues for faster AI development rather than slowing it down. He also discusses the need for new innovations to fulfil the promises of current AI techniques.

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Show notes:

* Domingos' views on AI regulation and why he believes it's misguided

* His thoughts on the current state of AI technology and its limitations

* Discussion of his novel "2040", a satirical take on AI and tech culture

* Explanation of his work on "tensor logic", which aims to unify neural networks and symbolic AI

* Critiques of other approaches in AI, including those of OpenAI and Gary Marcus

* Thoughts on the AI "bubble" and potential future developments in the field

Prof. Pedro Domingos:

https://x.com/pmddomingos

2040: A Silicon Valley Satire [Pedro's new book]

https://amzn.to/3T51ISd

TOC:

00:00:00 Intro

00:06:31 Bio

00:08:40 Filmmaking skit

00:10:35 AI and the wisdom of crowds

00:19:49 Social Media

00:27:48 Master algorithm

00:30:48 Neurosymbolic AI / abstraction

00:39:01 Language

00:45:38 Chomsky

01:00:49 2040 Book

01:18:03 Satire as a shield for criticism?

01:29:12 AI Regulation

01:35:15 Gary Marcus

01:52:37 Copyright

01:56:11 Stochastic parrots come home to roost

02:00:03 Privacy

02:01:55 LLM ecosystem

02:05:06 Tensor logic

Refs:

The Master Algorithm: How the Quest for the Ultimate Learning Machine Will Remake Our World [Pedro Domingos]

https://amzn.to/3MiWs9B

Rebooting AI: Building Artificial Intelligence We Can Trust [Gary Marcus]

https://amzn.to/3AAywvL

Flash Boys [Michael Lewis]

https://amzn.to/4dUGm1M

Andrew Ilyas, a PhD student at MIT who is about to start as a professor at CMU. We discuss Data modeling and understanding how datasets influence model predictions, Adversarial examples in machine learning and why they occur, Robustness in machine learning models, Black box attacks on machine learning systems, Biases in data collection and dataset creation, particularly in ImageNet and Self-selection bias in data and methods to address it.

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Andrew's site:

https://andrewilyas.com/

https://x.com/andrew_ilyas

TOC:

00:00:00 - Introduction and Andrew's background

00:03:52 - Overview of the machine learning pipeline

00:06:31 - Data modeling paper discussion

00:26:28 - TRAK: Evolution of data modeling work

00:43:58 - Discussion on abstraction, reasoning, and neural networks

00:53:16 - "Adversarial Examples Are Not Bugs, They Are Features" paper

01:03:24 - Types of features learned by neural networks

01:10:51 - Black box attacks paper

01:15:39 - Work on data collection and bias

01:25:48 - Future research plans and closing thoughts

References:

Adversarial Examples Are Not Bugs, They Are Features

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1905.02175

TRAK: Attributing Model Behavior at Scale

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2303.14186

Datamodels: Predicting Predictions from Training Data

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2202.00622

Adversarial Examples Are Not Bugs, They Are Features

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1905.02175

IMAGENET-TRAINED CNNS

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1811.12231

ZOO: Zeroth Order Optimization Based Black-box

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1708.03999

A Spline Theory of Deep Networks

https://proceedings.mlr.press/v80/balestriero18b/balestriero18b.pdf

Scaling Monosemanticity

https://transformer-circuits.pub/2024/scaling-monosemanticity/

Adversarial Examples Are Not Bugs, They Are Features

https://gradientscience.org/adv/

Adversarial Robustness Limits via Scaling-Law and Human-Alignment Studies

https://proceedings.mlr.press/v235/bartoldson24a.html

Prior Convictions: Black-Box Adversarial Attacks with Bandits and Priors

https://arxiv.org/abs/1807.07978

Estimation of Standard Auction Models

https://arxiv.org/abs/2205.02060

From ImageNet to Image Classification: Contextualizing Progress on Benchmarks

https://arxiv.org/abs/2005.11295

Estimation of Standard Auction Models

https://arxiv.org/abs/2205.02060

What Makes A Good Fisherman? Linear Regression under Self-Selection Bias

https://arxiv.org/abs/2205.03246

Towards Tracing Factual Knowledge in Language Models Back to the

Training Data [Akyürek]

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2205.11482

Dr. Joscha Bach introduces a surprising idea called "cyber animism" in his AGI-24 talk - the notion that nature might be full of self-organizing software agents, similar to the spirits in ancient belief systems. Bach suggests that consciousness could be a kind of software running on our brains, and wonders if similar "programs" might exist in plants or even entire ecosystems.

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Joscha takes us on a tour de force through history, philosophy, and cutting-edge computer science, teasing us to rethink what we know about minds, machines, and the world around us. Joscha believes we should blur the lines between human, artificial, and natural intelligence, and argues that consciousness might be more widespread and interconnected than we ever thought possible.

Dr. Joscha Bach

https://x.com/Plinz

This is video 2/9 from our coverage of AGI-24 in Seattle https://agi-conf.org/2024/

Watch the official MLST interview with Joscha which we did right after this talk on our Patreon now on early access - https://www.patreon.com/posts/joscha-bach-110199676 (you also get access to our private discord and biweekly calls)

TOC:

00:00:00 Introduction: AGI and Cyberanimism

00:03:57 The Nature of Consciousness

00:08:46 Aristotle's Concepts of Mind and Consciousness

00:13:23 The Hard Problem of Consciousness

00:16:17 Functional Definition of Consciousness

00:20:24 Comparing LLMs and Human Consciousness

00:26:52 Testing for Consciousness in AI Systems

00:30:00 Animism and Software Agents in Nature

00:37:02 Plant Consciousness and Ecosystem Intelligence

00:40:36 The California Institute for Machine Consciousness

00:44:52 Ethics of Conscious AI and Suffering

00:46:29 Philosophical Perspectives on Consciousness

00:49:55 Q&A: Formalisms for Conscious Systems

00:53:27 Coherence, Self-Organization, and Compute Resources

YT version (very high quality, filmed by us live)

https://youtu.be/34VOI_oo-qM

Refs:

Aristotle's work on the soul and consciousness

Richard Dawkins' work on genes and evolution

Gerald Edelman's concept of Neural Darwinism

Thomas Metzinger's book "Being No One"

Yoshua Bengio's concept of the "consciousness prior"

Stuart Hameroff's theories on microtubules and consciousness

Christof Koch's work on consciousness

Daniel Dennett's "Cartesian Theater" concept

Giulio Tononi's Integrated Information Theory

Mike Levin's work on organismal intelligence

The concept of animism in various cultures

Freud's model of the mind

Buddhist perspectives on consciousness and meditation

The Genesis creation narrative (for its metaphorical interpretation)

California Institute for Machine Consciousness

Prof Gary Marcus revisited his keynote from AGI-21, noting that many of the issues he highlighted then are still relevant today despite significant advances in AI.

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Gary Marcus criticized current large language models (LLMs) and generative AI for their unreliability, tendency to hallucinate, and inability to truly understand concepts.

Marcus argued that the AI field is experiencing diminishing returns with current approaches, particularly the "scaling hypothesis" that simply adding more data and compute will lead to AGI.

He advocated for a hybrid approach to AI that combines deep learning with symbolic AI, emphasizing the need for systems with deeper conceptual understanding.

Marcus highlighted the importance of developing AI with innate understanding of concepts like space, time, and causality.

He expressed concern about the moral decline in Silicon Valley and the rush to deploy potentially harmful AI technologies without adequate safeguards.

Marcus predicted a possible upcoming "AI winter" due to inflated valuations, lack of profitability, and overhyped promises in the industry.

He stressed the need for better regulation of AI, including transparency in training data, full disclosure of testing, and independent auditing of AI systems.

Marcus proposed the creation of national and global AI agencies to oversee the development and deployment of AI technologies.

He concluded by emphasizing the importance of interdisciplinary collaboration, focusing on robust AI with deep understanding, and implementing smart, agile governance for AI and AGI.

YT Version (very high quality filmed)

https://youtu.be/91SK90SahHc

Pre-order Gary's new book here:

Taming Silicon Valley: How We Can Ensure That AI Works for Us

https://amzn.to/4fO46pY

Filmed at the AGI-24 conference:

https://agi-conf.org/2024/

TOC:

00:00:00 Introduction

00:02:34 Introduction by Ben G

00:05:17 Gary Marcus begins talk

00:07:38 Critiquing current state of AI

00:12:21 Lack of progress on key AI challenges

00:16:05 Continued reliability issues with AI

00:19:54 Economic challenges for AI industry

00:25:11 Need for hybrid AI approaches

00:29:58 Moral decline in Silicon Valley

00:34:59 Risks of current generative AI

00:40:43 Need for AI regulation and governance

00:49:21 Concluding thoughts

00:54:38 Q&A: Cycles of AI hype and winters

01:00:10 Predicting a potential AI winter

01:02:46 Discussion on interdisciplinary approach

01:05:46 Question on regulating AI

01:07:27 Ben G's perspective on AI winter