Jessica spoke with Dr. Robert Lustig of UCSF and asked him whether eating something is better than eating nothing. He shared his beliefs about calories, metabolic health, starvation, and how he distinguishes between what an eating disorder is and what it's not.

Content Note: This episode discusses topics that may be distressing to those who are food insecure, live in areas of food apartheid, experience anti-fatness, and/or have disordered eating.

Part 2 of this episode will air in two weeks.

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His profiles at UCSF and here. 

Lustig's article that he sent to Jessica.

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Can we clearly distinguish what makes something an ultra-processed food? Amy Fletcher tries to help Jessica figure out what makes a food ultra-processed and what that distinction means. Jessica also details the rules for her 30 days of eating 80% of her diet from ultra-processed food.

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Meet Mahlah! They’re a trans-nonbinary model who created their own clothing brand to center queer and trans people. We talk queer aesthetics and they’re the first guest to answer audience questions. Also: what’s up with news coverage of processed foods?!

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Jessica’s dad has a request for listeners. In this episode Jessica talks to her dad about why she started this podcast and gets his feedback. They talk about what it’s like to be the only Black person in the room and talk about how they’ve both made it awkward. 

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Dietitian and author Jessica Wilson is finding ways to create institutional change by making it awkward and finds joy and laughter along the way. From the dietetics field, to trans care to publishing she’ll take listeners backstage at conferences and meetings for an in depth and close up look at what it looks like to create new paths.

Join Jessica Wilson weekly as she shares her stories and talks with guests about times they have made situations awkward in order to change institutions starting August 16th.

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