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Jessica is joined by Cara Harbstreet, MS RD and Jaye Rochon to wrap up the series on the anti-diet dietitian article by the WaPo and Examination. Both Cara and Jaye were featured in the article and this episode they share their experiences with the anti-diet community and their thoughts on the article.

Jessica wraps up the episode with her thoughts on the series and questions she continues to have.

Referenced as 1st article: https://www.theexamination.org/articles/the-food-industry-pays-influencer-dietitians-to-shape-your-eating-habits

Referenced as 2nd article: https://www.theexamination.org/articles/as-obesity-rises-big-food-and-dietitians-push-anti-diet-advice

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Clara Nosek was the most creative critic of the article about anti-dietitians who made cereal ads, written by The Examination and the WaPo. She joins Jessica to talk about her concerns and the two try hard to figure out why the article was written in the first place.

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1st article from The Examination and WaPo

This interview was over an hour long, shortened for publication. The 57 minute, lightly edited version is on the Making It Awkward Patreon.

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Some articles from Clara's deep dive:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2023/12/13/ftc-dietitians-social-media-ads/

BMI cutoffs

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Food labeling pushback

Jessica talks with Naureen Hunani, the dietitian and creator behind RDs for neurodiversity. They get into what Naureen saw was missing in the dietetic and anti-diet spaces and Jessica asks her about ARFID and the social construct of picky eating. The two also share their critiques of intuitive eating from a neurodivergent and disability lens.

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Sasha Chavkin, of the Examination, joins Jessica to talk about an article he recently co-authored, As Obesity Rises, Big Food and Dietitians Push 'Anti-diet' Advice, in collaboration with the Washington Post. Shasha shares how the article came together and some additional information that he's gathered for this episode.

This will be the first episode on this article. If you have thoughts/feedback you'd like to share for the next ep you can send an email or voice note to [email protected]

Association for Size Diversity and Health

The Examination's first article about dietitians

HAES Health Sheets

I said I'd link to Jaye Rochon's youtube but I simply cannot confirm that I've found it!

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Jessica welcomes butter mochi queen, Daphne Jenkins, to the podcast to discuss her Hawaiian ancestral foods, how she got into baking butter mochi and the art of food. She talks about the history, beauty, friction and tension that she channels into her work.

Jessica also asks about Hawaiian tourism and about how to visit Hawaii if we were going to do so.

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On visiting Hawaii

https://www.kayak.com/news/advice-on-being-a-respectful-traveler-in-hawaii/

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/hawaii-ban-short-term-vacation-rentals-moves-forward/story?id=109043795

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2022/08/10/united-shades-hawaii-tourism-origseriesfilms.cnn

Overthrow history: https://www.history.com/news/hawaiis-monarchy-overthrown-with-u-s-support-120-years-ago

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Jessica talks ultra processed foods with her dad. The two started ultra processed Fridays in which Jessica makes her dad taste test a new food and the two discuss the idea that all UPFs are unhealthy. Today Jessica presents a "natural" beef jerky to her dad for testing. She talks to him about UPFs, what he ate growing up and it turns out that her dad's feelings about Southern food are complicated.

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Jessica talks to UK doctor Dr. Asher Larmie about his perspectives on Ozempic and weight loss, diabetes, whether prediabetes is a thing and how we should (and shouldn't) measure blood sugar. The two discuss the differences in the US and UK guidance for diabetes and prediabetes.

Then, at Asher's invitation, Jessica asks him about his white saviorism and privilege, especially how it presents itself online. That stretch of the conversation gets a full analysis in the outro and Jessica speaks about how hard it is to critique whiteness in a way that seems less likely to receive backlash. It's all just hard.

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Dr. Chuks joins Jessica to talk about his new book, Eating Disorders Don't Discriminate. He edited the book with Bailey Spinn a TikTok and YouTube personality. Chuks and Jessica talk about how he got into the field and what made him write the book. Jessica nudges Chuks to talk about how Bailey was chosen to co-edit the book, but the two of them aren't able to get into the underlying dynamics at play.

Jessica also gets into the Oprah of it all.

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Chrissy King joins Jessica to talk about authorship and the patriarchal romanticization of relationships. Chrissy is the author of the Body Liberation Project; How Understanding Racism and Diet Culture Helps Cultivate Joy and Build Collective Freedom. The two get into what they wish they knew when writing their first books and Chrissy is able to convince Jessica to do it all over again. Chrissy talks about the beauty of being single and why we should never settle in our relationships. The best half of their lives is just getting started!

Chrissy King is a writer, speaker, educator, and former strength coach with a passion for creating a diverse and inclusive wellness industry. She is also the author of The Body Liberation Project. Through her work, Chrissy empowers individuals to stop shrinking, start taking up space, and use their energy to create their specific magic in the world. With degrees in social justice and sociology from Marquette University, Chrissy merges her passion for social justice with her passion for wellness to inspire members of the fitness industry to create spaces that allow individuals from all backgrounds to feel seen, welcomed, affirmed, and celebrated.

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Jessica's book is fun, spicy, and a love letter to those around her. She felt really good about it but once it left her hands things started to get awkward. Alison reenacts one of the most awkward moments in publishing history and shares how she made another moment awkward. Jessica working on loving her book again and is glad folks are along for this ride!

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