Podcast guest 1084 is Jeff Selver who in December of 1997, experienced the Rising, which was an agreement with Grey aliens to discover his soul. The Rising required him to take a leap of faith, sell all his possessions, and begin a life traveling from place to place. What unfolds is truly an epic adventure of removal from society and living close to nature, all while having contact events with Grey aliens without his knowing. Fundamentally, Jeff was shown that what humans understand about spirituality, life after death, dimensions, God, the soul, and psychic powers, are just the beginning of what these beings are all about. And that their capacity, understanding, and utilization of these is much greater than humans can imagine.