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Minute Eighty-Five: From The Last Stand in Puente Antiguo to Sif’s Fallen ShieldJoining us to discuss how everyone’s doing against the Destroyer and what Thor decides to do are Robin Burdge from Karate Kid Minute and Travis Bow from Reel Comic Heroes.In the eighty-fifth minute of Kenneth Branagh’s 2011 film Thor...

• The Destroyer certainly lives up to its name in this minute as it tears the town of Puente Antiguo apart, blowing the street and cars up as it tries to destroy Thor, Sif, and the Warriors Three.
• We really feel the change in Thor here, telling Sif to fight to live instead of dying so others can tell her story.
• And of course he also tells everyone they have to go back to Asgard to stop Loki while he holds the Destroyer back. But how is he going to do that?
• And how are they going to get back to Asgard? If they had, in a What If...? type of scenario, could they have beaten him? Or would they also have ended up frozen statues on the rainbow bridge?
• After we saw Volstagg blown out the back windows of Isabela’s Diner smoldering, how is he still alive?
• He doesn’t even have any singes or burns. Seriously fast healing those golden apples provide.
• There’s a deleted scene involving Erik nearly dying from a shard of glass that impales him. Thor heals him with healing stones that Hogun brought. We certainly have lots of thoughts about this bit and are glad it’s gone.
• Chris Hemsworth shines in these minutes. He carries the weight of his character and what he has to do well.
• But what’s up with his eyes? Why does it look like he’s wearing black contacts sometimes?
• And Sif’s shield when he drops it? Why does it look so fake?

It’s the last minute for Robin and Travis to pipe in about the Destroyer and how it’s kicking everyone’s butts. Tune in!Join the conversation with movie lovers from around the world on The Next Reel’s Discord channel!Film Sundries

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Minute Eighty-Four: From Sif’s Stunning Move to Volstagg’s Final Moment... AgainJoining us to discuss the Destroyer tearing Puente Antiguo apart, Sif’s cool move, the Destroyer’s awesome body spin, and the blasts that pretty much should’ve killed everyone are Robin Burdge from Karate Kid Minute and Travis Bow from Reel Comic Heroes.In the eighty-fourth minute of Kenneth Branagh’s 2011 film Thor...

• Sif uses a foothold on the telephone pole to leap onto the back of the Destroyer and it’s a damn cool move. But who saw that step? It’s hard to tell it’s there.
• The moment between Sif and Volstagg is cute.
• But then the Destroyer turns itself around, and that’s seriously what it’s all about. Possibly one of the coolest things in the MCU.
• What’s great about this moment is that it sets up just how impressive the Destroyer is and what a formidable foe they have to battle.
• In the script, the Warriors Three discuss a few other options for battle moves to fight the Destroyer – the Svartalfheim Twist, Kiss of the Hag, Face Full of Boot, and the Flying Mountain. Guess which one they tried on the Destroyer?
• The way the Destroyer’s fire blasts don’t always make sense. How does it propel Sif into the air? And how does it cause what looks like a massive explosion between Sif and the Warriors Three?
• This explosion sends the Warriors Three crashing into Isabela’s Diner, destroying one set of windows. The Destroyer then blasts them again, blowing out the other windows in the diner. It destroys half the town. It blasts glass over the Asgardian Three. How does anyone survive?
• Especially Volstagg who gets blown out of Isabela’s Diner on fire, crashing onto a bench outside the Greyhound station. How is he alive?

It’s a minute full of battle with the Destroyer, and the Destroyer looks like it’s going to win. Robin and Travis are here for it. Tune in!Join the conversation with movie lovers from around the world on The Next Reel’s Discord channel!Film Sundries

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Minute Eighty-Three: From Thor’s Mortal Reveal to Volstagg’s Final MomentJoining us to discuss Thor’s plan to save the people of Puente Antiguo, the Warriors Three and Sif’s plan to take on the Destroyer, and the results for Volstagg are Robin Burdge from Karate Kid Minute and Travis Bow from Reel Comic Heroes.In the eighty-third minute of Kenneth Branagh’s 2011 film Thor...

• We’ve got a deleted scene! Darcy asks a sketchy stranger to take her dog... which she’s only had for a few seconds. It’s very odd and wasn’t in the script. Was this dog the one that was scripted to appear when the Destroyer first steps foot into Puente Antiguo?
• Thor asks his friends to fight the Destroyer so he can help the Midgardians evacuate the town. This stands out as a key moment for his growth.
• Does evacuating the town show that the Asgardians know the Destroyer is here? Does it seem presumptuous to evacuate?
• That being said, how does the Destroyer get here so quickly? A few seconds ago, it was miles out of town!
• The shots of the Destroyer in town really highlight the complexities of getting great shots and how that affects continuity... at least for nerds watching the movie one minute at a time.
• The 7-11 blows up. Robin talks a bit about the trope of blowing up 7-11s in movies.
• But why does the Destroyer blow it up? Is it just because of Loki’s “Destroy everything” command? Was it killing cows and blowing up cars and trees on its walk here?
• Again... HOW DOES IT GET HERE SO QUICKLY?
• The Warriors Three and Sif put a plan together to take out the Destroyer. Clearly, they have plans like this in their back pocket. Why this one? Have they seen the Destroyer in action before?
• Their plan doesn’t go well for Volstagg. We leave this minute with him lying on the front of a car after getting backhanded by the Destroyer, with the Destroyer looking down at him, ready to burn him to a crisp. Things don’t look good for ol’ Volstagg!

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Minute Eighty-Two: Trouble on the Horizon to a Plan on the TableJoining us to discuss everyone’s reaction to the arrival of the Destroyer, as well as a coffee cup gaffe, are Robin Burdge from Karate Kid Minute and Travis Bow from Reel Comic Heroes.In the eighty-second minute of Kenneth Branagh’s 2011 film Thor...

• Why does the Destroyer’s arrival through Bifrost look like a mushroom cloud? Are we meant to draw that comparison?
• Once again, we talk about how much we love Darcy and little lines like, “Is someone else coming?”
• Does Thor know this is the Destroyer arriving? Is this giant swirling cloud because it’s such a big ‘being’ arriving?
• We talk a bit about the Destroyer and how it would’ve been nice if there was more of a direct explanation as to how someone needs to use their soul essentially to control the Destroyer.
• There’s a bit of comic book comparison with Bifrost travel and the Destroyer, not to mention some discussion about some of the comic origins for this particular story and when Sif was controlling the Destroyer.
• It’s fun how casual Agent Coulson is here. And considering everything from Iron Man and Iron Man 2, it makes perfect sense to us that he would think this is another person in a suit who has arrived.
• We discuss the coffee cup gaffe.
• More streets of Puente Antiguo talk. We can finally get a good shot of Arturo’s!

It’s a minute to watch out for as the Destroyer arrives in Puente Antiguo, and we’re here with Robin and Travis to talk about it. Tune in!Join the conversation with movie lovers from around the world on The Next Reel’s Discord channel!Film Sundries

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Minute Eighty-One: From Loki Confronting Heimdall to Coulson Confronting an Atmospheric DisturbanceJoining us to discuss Loki freezing Heimdall and the SHIELD agents preparing for a storm are Robin Burdge from Karate Kid Minute and Travis Bow from Reel Comic Heroes.In the eighty-first minute of Kenneth Branagh’s 2011 film Thor...

• Loki arrives to have a chat with Heimdall, but how did he get here? Did he casually walk the entire way from the palace? And has Heimdall just been staring at him his entire walk?
• Was Heimdall watching Loki on the palace balcony when the Warriors Three and Sif turned the Bifrost on to travel to Midgard? It would make sense and explain why he’s out here waiting for him.
• Again, it’s a shame Idris Elba is given so little to do. That being said, he does still stand stoically and imposingly better than most.
• We love the confrontation between Loki and Heimdall here.
• Where was Loki hiding the Casket? In a pocket dimension? Or was he grabbing it from Odin’s Vault?
• What’s up with Gungnir always standing up when the person wielding it lets go? Are they stabbing it into the ground? It doesn’t make a lot of sense.
• How believable is the CG ice that covers Heimdall? We debate its quality.
• Is Heimdall just out of practice? Is that why he takes so long to swing that sword toward Loki?

From a frozen Heimdall to a probing Coulson

• Agent Coulson and his SHIELD team investigate the markings left where the Warriors Three and Sif had arrived. But what is it? A compression in the ground? Burnt dirt?
• What would the agent from linguistics be able to read from this?
• What looks worse, the wind from the atmospheric disturbance or the ice freezing Heimdall?
• Even people in Puente Antiguo are looking at the atmospheric disturbance. What could it be?

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Minute Eighty: From Friends at the Door to Heimdall at the DoorJoining us to discuss a room full of surprises when the Warriors Three and Sif show up at the door to Smith Motors is Miles Stokes and Elisabeth Allie.In the eightieth minute of Kenneth Branagh’s 2011 film Thor...

• Erik tells Jane she needs hard evidence, and hard evidence shows up at the door in the form of the Warriors Three and Sif. It’s goofy but fun.
• But how did they find the place? Perhaps Volstagg figured it out from the spy gear on the roof across the way. To that end, it would’ve been great to give him that moment.
• There’s such delight on the faces of the Asgardians. Even Hogun the Grim is smiling. And Sif is waving like a silly school girl. This again makes us want to see that Asgardian high school show.
• Thor reunites with his Asgardian friends and they’re all thrilled to see each other, but Thor’s a real mood killer bringing up his dead dad and how he can’t go back.
• It’s the moment when Sif tells him that Odin lives that Chris Hemsworth shines as a performer as we see so many thoughts and emotions play across his face as he realizes what Loki’s done. It’s a great moment and we celebrate it.
• So what was their plan here? Were they hoping Thor could just swing Mjølnir around and somehow get them back? Knowing what Heimdall said as they were leaving that he has to follow the king’s orders, was there any thought that Heimdall wouldn’t be opening Bifrost back up for them?
• To that end, why no comments about where Mjølnir is or why he’s dressed the way he is? They didn’t see him get stripped of rank and outfit or Mjølnir, after all.

The minute ends with Heimdall stoically standing guard at the door to the Himinbjorg.

• Heimdall stands at the door to Himinbjorg, his observatory. Very stoic.
• He’s gotta know Loki’s coming. Does he know Loki’s also bringing the Destroyer?
• Even though we don’t get much here, it’s a cool shot.

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Minute Seventy-Nine: From Two Secret Agents to One Doubting ThomasJoining us to dig into the arrival of the Warriors Three and Sif – for the Renaissance Fair? – in the small town of Puente Antiguo are Miles Stokes and Elisabeth Allie from the podcast Thor: The Lightning and the Storm.In the seventy-ninth minute of Kenneth Branagh’s 2011 film Thor...

• We meet Agents Cale and Garrett working covertly across from Smith Motors on the roof eavesdropping on Thor and the Scientists Three. We play the IMDb game with the actors playing these roles.
• There’s also discussion about the extended bit with them in the deleted scene where they’re talking about the eggs Thor makes. It’s kinda funny.

 Loki sets the Destroyer loose to send to Midgard and destroy Thor.

• Did Loki have this in the back of his mind all this time? Seems like a brutal way to take out his brother. What pushed him to take this turn?
• How well does the Destroyer understand commands like this? Loki’s commands seem awfully emotion-driven and very broad. Or is there a sense here that part of this is he’s working to gain his mental connection to it like in the comics?

 The Warriors Three and Sif arrive in Puente Antiguo.

• There are some comedic beats here as this group arrives in town and walks through it looking for Thor while everyone gapes at them. Yes, they do look like they're here for a Renaissance Fair.
• But do their weapons and outfits need to look so artificial? Or is there something there that hints at their being from another Realm?
• We discuss the deleted scene which includes several additional bits.
• The first of which, which we all really like, is Volstagg lifting a car to get a baseball some kids threw. This scene would’ve added to his character in a wonderful way, giving us a sense of who he is.
• It also would’ve helped clarify that the Asgardians, in fact, do have superhuman strength when not broken by Odin’s spell. That would’ve enhanced the fight with the Destroyer.
• The second part is the Warriors Three and Sif talking about the last time they were on Midgard 1,000 years ago. So that would’ve been 1011, 46 years after Odin’s battle with the Jotuns in Norway. So how old are these characters exactly? And in relation to Thor and Loki?
• The last bit is Volstagg separating from the group because he smells something tasty. As it turns out, it’s the Burger King product placement Agents Cale and Garrett are eating on the roof. It’s a silly scene and again focuses on Volstagg’s appetite. It’s a bit much.
• But this is why the scene we do get of the four Asgardians marching up Main Street is actually a composite shot with Volstagg digitally added in walking ahead of his friends. And why the Agents on the roof don’t give Volstagg a nickname when they call it in.
• The minute ends with Erik doubting Jane’s research yet again. Sheesh.

 It’s the Renaissance Fair! Oh, no, wait—it’s us talking with Miles Stokes and Elisabeth Allie about the townies’ reactions to the Asgardians in this minute. Tune in!Join the conversation with movie lovers from around the world on The Next Reel’s Discord channel!Film Sundries

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Minute Seventy-Eight: From Loki Watching the Bifrost to Thor Delivering BreakfastJoining us to discuss a busy minute with Loki, the Warriors Three & Sif, and Agent Coulson & his SHIELD agents, all while Thor and Jane make breakfast, are Miles Stokes and Elisabeth Allie from the podcast Thor: The Lightning and the Storm.In the seventy-eighth minute of Kenneth Branagh’s 2011 film Thor...

• So the Warriors Three and Sif take the Bifrost to Midgard, and lo and behold! Loki’s watching. But that begs the question – how long has Loki been standing on his balcony waiting to see Bifrost open up?
• Is Heimdall watching Loki watch the Bifrost?

The Warriors Three and Sif arrive on Midgard

• It looks like the same spot where Thor arrived, so is this really the local Bifrost junction?
• Turns out SHIELD notices them arrive, and they now have handy computer modeling programs to show it. So do they know it’s some form of wormhole travel happening here?
• Agent Coulson sure doesn’t have many questions. He’s raring to go out to the desert to investigate.

With everyone else is so busy, Thor and Jane make breakfast.

• It’s a very quiet moment – maybe the quietest in the film? – as Thor and Jane make breakfast for a hung over Erik and smiling Darcy.
• When did Thor learn to make breakfast?
• What do we think of the deleted scene where Thor delivers a new mug to Isabela to replace the one he broke?

So many things are put into action in this minute – must be nearing act three – and Miles Stokes and Elisabeth Allie are here for it. Tune in!Join the conversation with movie lovers from around the world on The Next Reel’s Discord channel!Film Sundries

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Minute Seventy-Seven: From The Plan to The BifrostJoining us to discuss Hogun's words, the decision the Warriors Three and Sif make, Heimdall’s reaction, and the Observatory kicking into high gear are once again Miles Stokes and Elisabeth Allie from the podcast Thor: The Lightning and the Storm.In the seventy-seventh minute of Kenneth Branagh’s 2011 film Thor...

• Was it meant to be a moment of comedy between Sif and Hogun the Grim? Or did Sif have a different plan than Hogun?
• Regardless, the moment plays in a comedic way.
• There’s also the fact that Hogun speaks again. Is that why everyone turns to him suddenly when he speaks?
• Could it be that they’re surprised to hear from the Vanir that he feels they need to lay their lives down for the Asgardian prince?
• We pine for the lack of facial hair on Hogun. And where is all of their fantastic headgear?
• We discuss Hogun from the comics a bit as well.
• And we point out that they cast the actor who played Genghis Khan in the film Mongol to play Hogun, which seems to fit his look in the comics.
• Fandral seems to be the one more focused on following orders. To that end, it certainly fits the single traits they’re each given.
• Fandral came close to death on Jotunheim. We wonder why we don’t get any acknowledgement in this scene from him that it may be affecting his decisions here.
• Sif says Thor would do the same for them. But didn’t he ignore their pleas on Jotunheim to leave? Or is it that she means he’d break the rules for them?
• We comment again on how much we’d love to see the Asgardian high school show to see all of these characters when young.

Heimdall’s been watching as it turns out.

• What rank is Heimdall as it concerns the Warriors Three and Sif? Are they on the same level? Does Loki as king change that?
• Again, we love Idris Elba in the role, even if he doesn’t get to do much.
• We dig into Heimdall a bit more from the comics as well.
• We wonder why Heimdall does his strange fake-out things so often in this film.
• There certainly is an element of a dangerous game that Heimdall plays with them here as far as his loyalties because he’s essentially committing treason as they are.

It’s a fun minute with Volstagg, Fandral, Hogun the Grim, Sif, Heimdall, Miles, and Elisabeth. Tune in!Join the conversation with movie lovers from around the world on The Next Reel’s Discord channel!Film Sundries

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Minute Seventy-Six: From Drawing Yggdrasil to Stress EatingJoining us to chat more about Thor’s attempt at drawing and explaining the Nine Realms, as well as Fandral’s yelling at Volstagg about his stress eating are Miles Stokes and Elisabeth Allie from the podcast Thor: The Lightning and the Storm.In the seventy-sixth minute of Kenneth Branagh’s 2011 film Thor...

• We’re closing out the RomCom rooftop art session between Thor and Jane. There's also a production code tried-and-true transition to the moon, then see the two of them sleeping next to each other. We discuss how far they went or not.
• Have people in Asgard ever seen a romantic Thor before?
• This really may be Thor’s first time to explore this side of himself.
• How interesting to see them so chaste in their sleeping on the roof.
• We debate about the Nine Realms some more because there’s always more time for this.
• To that end, there’s plenty of room for inconsistency in the comics, so it almost makes sense that there’s a continued inconsistency in the films as well
• Patrick Doyle’s romantic theme continues here and we continue our adoration for it.
• To that end, we’re fans of romance in the MCU and wish there was more.
• Yggdrasil comes up again, this time talking about literal versus metaphor versus thematics.
• But does Thor get any of the positions of the realms correct within Yggdrasil? And does it matter?
• What is Thor thanking Jane for? We discuss possibilities.

 Time to return to Asgard into the Healing Room.

• We debate why Branagh decided to cut into this scene with a shot of the pattern on the floor that then tilts up.
• Volstagg does some serious stress eating. Should Fandral be so demeaning to Volstagg about it?
• To that end, it’s really not fun to watch Volstagg eat the way he does. It’s... disgusting. Plus, you have a beard! Has no one taught you eating etiquette?
• We debate the strengths and weaknesses of the Warriors Three. Could the filmmakers have done more with them to make them more interesting characters? By simplifying them to single traits each, how much does that diminish them? And is that why they’re completely written out by now?
• We comment how Volstagg may be less a dwarf archetype and more of a dwobbit.
• Our guests bring perspective on the Warriors Three and Sif from the comics, and it makes us really wish we had better from them.
• The god’s eye view shot... does this signify that Heimdall is watching them?

 It’s the end of the romantic scene (but not the end of the romance!) and some fighting in the Healing Room (if only it had been the War Room!). Miles Stokes and Elisabeth Allie are here for all of it. Tune in!Join the conversation with movie lovers from around the world on The Next Reel’s Discord channel!Film Sundries

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