In this week's episode, Casey Scott and Dr. Matt Woolley are joined by Matthew Jackson, a former BYU professor, to talk about Matthew's experimentation with substances growing up in a small town, the shame he felt after his addiction became more well known, and how a spiritual awakening led him to experience recovery for the first time.

Then Matthew talks about his life without substance abuse, how pursuing his Ph.D. led to a  reliance on caffeine, and his decision to begin abusing energy drinks and pain pills in order to stay focused on his goals.

Matthew also talks about the "Holy Trinity" of addiction, the events that led to his rock bottom, and what his recovery looks like now.

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