On Thursday afternoon, a Manhattan trial of his peers found former President Donald Trump guilty on all charges of falsifying business records. The jury deliberated for two days. Shortly after the verdict was announced, Playbook co-author Ryan Lizza sat down with senior writer and columnist for Politico Magazine (and former federal prosecutor) Ankush Khardori and senior legal affairs reporter Kyle Cheney. They unpack how the prosecution prevailed, how the defense botched it, and what—if any—effect this will have on Trump’s life and political future.