In this week's episode of the Divorce Detox podcast, our hosts have a fabulous conversation with Attorney Julia Perkins. Julia is the Chair of the Family Law Team at Varnum Law in Michigan. She has been practicing family law for 27 years and is also a certified mediator.

Listen in as Jolee and Julia compare notes about the difference and similarities about mediation between their various jurisdictions. Lisa also shares how she preps her clients to attend mediation with a narcissistic partner. It is an informative episode highlighting the existence of heart-centered divorce professionals ready and willing to support you through your journey.