Merel Kindt discusses how fear extinction can be achieved permanently, covering propranolol, epigenetics, psychedelics, and the broader implications of erasing fear. The conversation explores scientific approaches to phobias, PTSD, and future challenges in fear‑removal research.

- 00:00 - Introduction to fear extinction
- 14:07 - Propranolol and blood/brain barrier
- 18:32 - Epigenetics and inherited fears
- 26:33 - Removing fear of public speaking
- 30:36 - PTSD
- 33:45 - Psychedelics MDMA for self‑treatment
- 37:29 - Pilot study with cigarette addiction
- 42:31 - Should we get rid of fear? Consequences
- 43:13 - MDMA vs LSD vs Psilocybin
- 48:07 - Fear of silverfish
- 50:13 - Modeling‑based phobias
- 54:37 - Kindt 2009 paper on memory engrams
- 55:34 - Kindt 2019 paper
- 58:02 - Imagery scripting
- 59:35 - Disgust removal?
- 1:00:36 - How beta‑blockers work
- 1:02:04 - Sleep for memory reconsolidation
- 1:03:33 - Startle reflex measurement
- 1:06:07 - Testing alternative beta‑blocker
- 1:07:12 - Future challenges and limitations

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