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On the Gist, Trump and Pence can't be honest with the public.

In the interview, Miami Mayor Frances Suarez has fully recovered after testing positive for the COVID-19 virus, and now is donating his plasma for use in an experimental treatment. He talks with Mike about his experience, what Miami's reaction to the pandemic has been, and what he's doing to push other parts of the government to take it seriously.

In the spiel, healing and physical proximity.

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