Michael Levin and Joscha Bach explore the idea of a global mind, collective intelligence, agency, and how morphogenesis might shape cognition. They debate the boundaries between biology and computation, and consider what competence means for cells and societies.

- 00:00:00 - Introduction
- 00:01:55 - Bach and Levin discuss each other's work
- 00:03:34 - Cells as neuron-like units
- 00:07:15 - Software as control pattern
- 00:10:55 - Academic disciplinary boundaries
- 00:14:38 - Perceptron as brain toy model
- 00:18:44 - Researcher identity
- 00:20:10 - Podcast vs academia benefits
- 00:30:04 - Drastic belief changes
- 00:38:54 - Memory beyond brain
- 00:45:06 - Engrams and storage
- 00:47:30 - Transferring memory across species
- 00:55:25 - Weissman's barrier
- 00:59:25 - Notion of competence
- 01:12:10 - Virtualization for unreliable hardware
- 01:16:02 - Defining competence
- 01:22:35 - Goals and teleology issues
- 01:27:34 - Planarian goals and encoded instructions
- 01:34:55 - Navigation in morphic space
- 01:36:11 - One species' defect as benefit
- 01:37:42 - Intelligence trap and bias
- 01:39:05 - Applying each other's work
- 01:52:25 - General intelligence necessities in cells

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