Michael Mervosh, clinical psychologist and founder of the Hero's Journey Foundation. Michael joined me to talk about how people are managing their way through the crisis.

Our conversation covers the unexpected resonance of shelter-in-place, facing ordeals, valuing connection, and discovering creativity. We close with a simple tip to participate in something bigger than yourself, and a poetic word about kindness.

If you'd like to learn more about Michael and his work, in which I've been an active participant, check out herosjourneyfoundation.org/introduction, and have a listen to our previous conversation that follows on the feed.

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