In his first interview since returning from a 10-month hiatus, Bryce Nickels of Science From the Fringe, speaks with Michael Nevradakis, senior reporter at the Defender, Children’s Health Defense’s online news platform.

Science from the Fringe is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.

From his home in Greece, Nevradakis recounts his early doubts in March 2020 about Anthony Fauci and the emerging COVID-19 policies. Spotting parallels to the manipulative tactics he saw during Greece’s financial crisis, he accurately predicted extended lockdowns, vaccine mandates, and the rise of digital identification. Nevradakis also discusses Senator Rand Paul’s scrutiny of Fauci’s communications, the Fauci-backed “Proximal Origin” paper which pushed a natural spillover theory despite virologists’ private skepticism, and damning emails revealing Fauci’s orders to delete official government communications—which could amount to criminal offenses such as perjury and violations of The Federal Records Act.

Nevradakis also discusses his recent article on the surprising appointment of a dangerous gain-of-function advocate as the new acting director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID).

The conversation ends with sobering thoughts on holding public health leaders accountable, whether the will exists to follow through on the former, and a preview of Nevradakis’s upcoming reports on these developing stories.

Timestamps

00:00:32 - 00:01:08: Introduction to Michael Nevradakis

00:01:09 - 00:05:17: Transition from PhD lecturer to journalist

00:06:09 - 00:12:36: Early skepticism toward Anthony Fauci and COVID measures

00:13:37 - 00:15:44: Discussion of Senator Rand Paul’s probe into Fauci’s communications and COVID origins

00:15:52 - 00:18:10: The Proximal Origin paper and Fauci’s influence

00:20:02 - 00:23:39: Biden’s preemptive pardon for Fauci

00:25:50 - 00:27:23: Fauci’s instructions to colleagues to destroy public records

00:29:39 - 00:34:32: Should Fauci be held accountable?

00:34:32 - 00:40:48: Concerns over the appointment of a proponent of dangerous gain-of-function research as acting director of NIAID

00:40:52 - 00:43:39: Closing thoughts

features music by Tess Parks

Get full access to Science From the Fringe at sciencefromthefringe.substack.com/subscribe